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Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Yes Nick, yet without the sin curse because that comes from the man, not from the woman. He was tempted in His flesh.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (eveh @ Aug. 30 2009,22:15)What do you do with a scripture like this?Numbers 23:19-20 (King James Version) 19God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? If Jesus is a man and he is God, doesn't that make him a man…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,15:26)Hi LU, So a man is God? God is a man? Men are gods as Jesus said so perhaps that is what is meant that they act for God?Hi Nick,God has given some men in history to be “as” god to other men. They are in a completely different category than the Son of God who from the beginning was the begotten God who…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,14:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 30 2009,17:24)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,00:36)Hi LU, We have one God.Jesus is our Lord.Hi Nick,True but with this understanding, IMO:We have one God a.k.a. the Most High GodJesus is our Lord a.k.a. the Only Begotten GodHi LU, Jesus is the son of man. He is born of a woman.Mary…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 8 months ago
Quote (eveh @ Aug. 30 2009,02:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 30 2009,17:24)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,00:36)Hi LU, We have one God.Jesus is our Lord.Hi Nick,True but with this understanding, IMO:We have one God a.k.a. the Most High GodJesus is our Lord a.k.a. the Only Begotten GodScripture please, showing Jesus is a begotten God. It must say…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,00:36)Hi LU, We have one God.Jesus is our Lord.Hi Nick,True but with this understanding, IMO:We have one God a.k.a. the Most High GodJesus is our Lord a.k.a. the Only Begotten God
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (eveh @ Aug. 29 2009,20:43)Jesus said he was the son of God. The apostles said he was the Son of God. God said Jesus was his Son. Even the Devil knew him as the Son of God. The Demons he cast out, knew him as the Son of God. And still, the church world decided this could not be true. So they invented their own religion. IT is not what…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
David,When the scripture says that God is a spirit, it isn't talking about His nature that I call “divine”, IMO, it is talking about Him not being a flesh and blood being but a spirit being. The angels are a spirit being with the nature of an angel. The Father and Son are spirit beings with the nature of a god.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
David,Where does the scripture say that angels have a divine nature? I believe they have a supernatural nature but not a divine nature. Please show me. LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 29 2009,18:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 30 2009,09:39)Can Jesus be God because HE shares the nature of His Father who is the Most High God. A son of man is man because he shares the nature of man. In the same reasoning, a son of God is God because He shares the nature of God. He would not be the God who always existed th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (david @ Aug. 29 2009,18:41)Quote No David, we “become” partakers” of the divine nature, we didn't originally have it…the Son did. The Son is perfect and always was, we are not. Big difference!But when someone becomes a “partaker” of divine nature, they have “divine nature” do they not?All I'm saying is this “big difference” isn't b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Wow, Rokka, I think were are in sync!

Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 29 2009,18:31)To further clarify, it says in the beginning mankind was created in God's image.The NT says Jesus IS the express image.Please there is a difference in being created in God's image or possessing his nature, than actually Being God's Nature…And it said Jesus WHO IS THE EXPRESS IMAGE…it didn't say who is in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (david @ Aug. 29 2009,17:27)Quote (RokkaMan @ Aug. 30 2009,09:24)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,09:20)Hi R, So being in the form of God really means being God?YesDoes having “divine nature” mean you're God?(2 Pet 1:4)No David, we “become” partakers” of the divine nature, we didn't originally have it…the Son did. The Son is perfect and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proof jesus is god from paul's mouth? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 9 months ago
Can Jesus be God because HE shares the nature of His Father who is the Most High God. A son of man is man because he shares the nature of man. In the same reasoning, a son of God is God because He shares the nature of God. He would not be the God who always existed though. Therefore, He would not be the Most High God. He would be the ONLY…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did jesus have the same spirit as believers? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 27 2009,11:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2009,08:25)Keith and Thinker,A good pair you two make! God bless you inspite of yourselves as you argue away. I'm not into the arguing of the same points over and over. You can reread my posts on those points instead of me repeating them.Thinker I hope your wife is ok from the ca…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did jesus have the same spirit as believers? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 9 months ago
Keith and Thinker,A good pair you two make! God bless you inspite of yourselves as you argue away. I'm not into the arguing of the same points over and over. You can reread my posts on those points instead of me repeating them.Thinker I hope your wife is ok from the car accident…that kind of thing really shakes a person up.Keep that oxygen…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did jesus have the same spirit as believers? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 9 months ago
Keith,This is my feelings about extra-Biblical words:Quote Keith,I have trouble with extra-Biblical terms when I do not see a clear Biblical teaching to back them up.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Did jesus have the same spirit as believers? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2009,17:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2009,17:26)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 24 2009,17:10)Hi LU, Jesus gave up his own spirit at calvary. He died. His faith extended beyond death to continued life in the Spirit of his God.Nick,I understand that Jesus had a united spirit with the Father within Him which He committed…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did jesus have the same spirit as believers? in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2009,18:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2009,17:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 24 2009,17:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2009,17:26)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 24 2009,17:10)Hi LU, Jesus gave up his own spirit at calvary. He died. His faith extended beyond death to continued life in the Spirit of his God.Nick,I…[Read more]
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