Thanks Rokkaman,Interesting how I had a similar “lightbulb” moment. So, what was it that you read or someone taught you that brought that “light bulb moment?”We now have very similar understandings and that is remarkable. The only difference that I see is that you think Jesus was created and I say He was begotten-not created.God bless,Kathi

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Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 27 2009,11:52)Let it be clear when you use the term “God”Do you mean YHWH, the supreme being of all things.Or title as in God of…to show supreme authority.Jesus is definately God of all things, but he is not YHWH the supreme being.If you use God exclusively for the Supreme being, then you cannot use it in reference with…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:28)Revelation 10:6 (King James Version)6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: Revelation 4:10-11 (King James…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,15:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:19)Isaiah 43:6-8 (Young's Literal Translation) 6I am saying to the north, `Give up,' And to the south, `Restrain not.' Bring in My sons from afar, And My daughters from the end of the earth. 7Every one who is called by My name, Even…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,15:08)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,22:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,14:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,23:19)Isaiah 43:6-8 (Young's Literal Translation) 6I am saying to the north, `Give up,' And to the south, `Restrain not.' Bring in My sons from afar, And My daughters from the end of the earth. 7Every one who is called by My name, Even for My honour I have created him, I have formed him, yea, I have made him.This…[Read more]

Nick,I would think that He was continually growing in wisdom since His birth from Mary. The power that He needed to do His 3 1/2 years of ministry was probably given to Him at the Jordan. He continued to be taught what to say and what to do after the Jordan just like before the Jordan. IMOLU

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,22:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,14:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I would say that He had to be taught, not re-taught. Wouldn't you say that a renewed mind is one that had to be re-taught? Jesus was taught properly about God right from His infancy as a man as far as I can see…no need to be re-taught/renewed.LU

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God and serve Him only then I would also worship His Son as an expression of my…[Read more]

Mandy,You are listening to the discourager. Take every thought captive and cling to the thoughts that give love, joy, peace. Always turn the thoughts off that lead to destruction…that is never from God.Here is an interview that led me to the book “How to Hear God's Voice” by Mark and Patti Virkler:http://www.sidroth.org/site….ctrl=-1I have…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 26 2009,13:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2009,05:02)I'm going with the literal son begotten before creation theory because that is what I believe God showed me.Hi Kathi,And I am quite certain that God showed me something entirely different……Hmmmm.  This always concerns me when I hear people say that “God showed” them…[Read more]

Hi Mandy,I think that I have plopped my ideas on this topic here before but I will reiterate what I think now because you asked me to. I believe that the human body of Jesus came from a supernatural fertilzation of Mary's egg by the power of the Most High God through His Spirit. She was the Son of Man's biological mother but not the biological…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 26 2009,03:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2009,14:51)Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God and serve Him only then I would also worship His Son as an expression of my worship to the Father.  Why Bo, do you think that it is requested of the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 26 2009,00:50)Hi LU, He was conceived in Mary of the Spirit and a son to Joseph by adoption?So the expression of the Spirit of God in Christ and his brothers is only part of the nature of God? But the fullness of the Spirit was given to himNick,Nature is not an expression. The expression of love, joy, peace, etc. comes…[Read more]

Nick,The typical offspring has two parents. The Only Begotten Son of God only had a Father. As a man He still had the Father but also an earthly mother and step father, but you knew that didn't you.The fruit of the Spirit of God is not His nature but the kind of nature He has does produce the fruit…love, joy, peace, patience, kindness,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 25 2009,23:37)Hi LU, So none of the miracles and anointed words were of him but it was all of God within him as Spirit.So he was not God on earth?Hi Nick,You asked:Quote So none of the miracles and anointed words were of him but it was all of God within him as Spirit.He did perform the miracles but not without the…[Read more]

Nick,I think that the only begotten Son had supernatural powers and that He gave them up to come as the baby Jesus. As a man, the Son did not have special powers before He was anointed at the Jordan as far as I can tell.LU

Hi Bo,Do you have a specific Bible verse that says this:Quote …God does not procreate He creates.If I worship God and serve Him only then I would also worship His Son as an expression of my worship to the Father. Why Bo, do you think that it is requested of the angels to worship the Son but it would be blaspheme for man to worship the Son?Don't…[Read more]