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    Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 17 2010,06:32)Kathi said:Quote …but I certainly do think it is possible for the Most High God to have a true offspring which comes from Himself so I have no problem with the term monogenes theos used in John 1:18 to be translated as “only begotten God” as the NASB translates it.  But you already know that. The sun begets[Read more]

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    Welcome to HN,I don't see the cross as a tool by which people died but more of an altar upon which Jesus was sacrificed.  The Romans and Jews though of Jesus's death as a crucifixion but ultimately, it was Jesus's very Father and God that sent His Son to die as a sacrifice.  In the Old Testament, God ordered some altars to be built as a place to s…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2010,23:27)LUthe scriptures says “no man can see God and live”this is a true statement .Christ says “no one as seen the father but the Son” this is a true statement.God the Father is an Spirit, this is a true statement.God is HOLY .this is a true statement.Only God is GOOD, this is a true statementthe ways of God are…[Read more]

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    terraricca,You misunderstood my comment. No where did I say that the Son was God the Father, in fact, I said that the Son was not the Most High God (the Father).I don't think that one has to be a trinitarian to believe that the Son is God. God is what would be begotten of a Father that was and is God. He would not be anything but what He was…[Read more]

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    Good conversation going terraricca and JustAskin! I agree with much of what you both have said except for one particular thing. I see that Jesus, because He was begotten of the Most High God, can indeed be God, just not the “Most High God.” What else would the Most High God beget? Would that threaten the fact of there being one God? Well, not…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2010,01:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,21:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,13:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,13:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:25)Hi, Does any bible translate MONOGENES, relating to Jesus, as ONLY? Why would you WJ and TT?Most…[Read more]

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    Thanks Terraricca and JustAskin for your response.I am a Christian also. I have a slightly different understanding. Next question, do you believe that Jesus had a beginning? If so, when?Blessings, Kathi

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    Thanks for your reply JustAskin, Terraricca, and Gene, but would you agree that the Most High God would have always existed?Btw, I prefer “Lu” for short or you can always call me “Kathi,” thanks.

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    Quote (Gene @ Jan. 16 2010,17:42)Lu……..i understand that could have happened , But most of the time i Quote it as, “Jesus Said in prayer”, “for thou (someone other then himself are the (ONLY) TRUE GOD”, but i do see your point thanks.peace and love to you and yours………….geneHi Gene,You probably meant that for “JustAskin” but thanks for…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,13:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,13:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:25)Hi, Does any bible translate MONOGENES, relating to Jesus, as ONLY? Why would you WJ and TT?Most translations render it “Only Begotten Son” of God.STRONG'S G3439 – MONOGENĒS 1) SINGL…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 16 2010,05:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:29)Hi, Does anyone else apart from trinitarians agree that it is oK to say Jesus is the ONLY SON of God?Jb 38, Gen 6,Ps 89, …Hi Nick,I agree that it is ok to say Jesus is the ONLY SON of God.Thanks for asking,KathiHi LU, So by which…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:15)Hi, The thief comes to steal and destroy. Unless you repent you will all likewise perish.So natural men are at the mercy of their cruel god. God stays Satan's hand at times by His sovereign choice. Then once men enter the kingdom suffering becomes the tool God uses to purify us as if by fire.Hi Nick,Good…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,13:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:25)Hi, Does any bible translate MONOGENES, relating to Jesus, as ONLY? Why would you WJ and TT?Most translations render it “Only Begotten Son” of God.STRONG'S G3439 – MONOGENĒS 1) SINGLE OF ITS KIND, ONLYA) USED OF ONLY SONS OR DAUGHTERS (VIEWED IN RELATION TO THEIR…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:29)Hi, Does anyone else apart from trinitarians agree that it is oK to say Jesus is the ONLY SON of God?Jb 38, Gen 6,Ps 89, …Hi Nick,I agree that it is ok to say Jesus is the ONLY SON of God.Thanks for asking,Kathi

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 16 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (RokkaMan @ Dec. 29 2009,12:50)Hi David,You wrote:So we have an angel, demons, Jehovah, Jesus, John the Baptist, Nathanael, Peter, Martha, John, Paul, mockers of Jesus, an army officer who saw Jesus die, the Jews, all making very plain what they believed Jesus to be, the “Son of” God, or “God’s Son,” and hence, not God, but someone related t…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 02 2009,03:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2009,21:24)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 01 2009,19:41)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2009,18:43)Hi Keith,Does Jesus teach us that He is the ultimate prize or the Father and the Son are the ultimate prize?KathiKathiI thought you would have known the answer to this?Howbeit what…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 14 2009,16:53)my question is, are today christians true to God and Christ asemble in a particular churche ?if yes .were?if no . why?This interview might be of interest to you found here:http://www.sidroth.org/site….br=rad_The author discusses his book “Leaving the Church to Find God” on that interview and his book has a…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 01 2009,19:41)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 01 2009,18:43)Hi Keith,Does Jesus teach us that He is the ultimate prize or the Father and the Son are the ultimate prize?KathiKathiI thought you would have known the answer to this?Howbeit what things were gain to me, these have “I COUNTED LOSS FOR CHRIST”. Yea verily, and I cou…[Read more]

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    Hi Keith,Does Jesus teach us that He is the ultimate prize or the Father and the Son are the ultimate prize?Kathi

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    Quote (rancherforChrist @ Nov. 27 2009,00:53)Funny thing, this brother in Christ has, for so long, held on pretty tightly to material things. Wouldn't ya just know that's where the Lord started cleaning house in his life. This brother told me that the Lord told him to start selling all his things. He also believes the Lord is getting him ready to…[Read more]

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