Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,12:24)hi LUyou right ,about the worship of Christ ,but he is worshiping his father so in a sense we worshiping the father through him.terraricca,Again, I agree with you…we worship Christ because we worship the Father and because Christ is worthy of our worship.God bless,Kathi

Hmmmm…it does clearly include mankind here as giving worship to the Lamb too, and btw, that “Lamb” is Christ.Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 18 2010,20:48)KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Jan. 18 2010,19:17)A begotten God can't be the source of Himself and therefore…not the source of all things, nor always existent and not equal to the Father who is the source of all things and self-existent.  That doesn't make Him less than 100% God, it just does not make Him…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,00:04)LUthis is what i say;we could say that God the Father totally mighty and the son mighty god over all what as been created through him and for him, but Got the father is God over all things included the son.is this better terraricca,I got it…thank you! I agree.

TerrariccaForgiven…no big deal

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2010,20:51)Group: MembersPosts: 1251Joined: Oct. 2009  Posted: Jan. 19 2010,11:25  ——————————————————————————–LUyou do not deal with God the way you deal with man ,God is a spirit, and so his powers are spirit,we do not understand this, and the scriptures do not r…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,22:14)Kathi said:Quote The angel said that he would be called the Son of God in the future sense, I'm fine with that, but that does not mean that He wasn't the Son of God from the beginning.TO ALL:Kathi ignores that the scripture EXPRESSLY declares that Christ was begotten as Son at His exaltation. It was in…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2010,21:30)and LU the quote you have respond to was not mine,so i wanted to clarify it.do not mix quotes and names.thank youterraricca,Please show me where I mixed quotes and names. I don't know what you are talking about. Thanks,Kathi

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 18 2010,09:05)Terra and Lu,I thank you both for your input and feedback.Like I said, everyone's theory is possible if it is also plausible – at the end of any discussion there will be agreement and disagreement on all or some part of the issue.Perhaps this is just one of those Faith issue. Certainly, I know that some things…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2010,19:25)LUyou do not deal with God the way you deal with man ,God is a spirit and so his powers are spirit,we do not understand this and the scriptures do not reveal this,so if we say God the father total and full might and the son mighty god over all what as been create sins and through him, but God the father is…[Read more]

Hi Keith,I have not scrapped my theory.  I believe that the Son of God was a person from His beginning.  I don't believe He had a created beginning, nor an uncreated beginning, but He likely had a beginning.The angel said that he would be called the Son of God in the future sense, I'm fine with that, but that does not mean that He wasn't the Son o…[Read more]

Irene,Isn't the important thing that they do worship whether in front of the cross or not?  Keep the main thing, the main thing…they are worshipping God at the foot of a cross…Mary did also.  They are not worshipping a cross…that to me is ridiculous.

Good advice terraricca,If you do not have enough faith that you will not make an idol out of a piece of cross-shaped metal then ask God to help you overcome your weakness for your idea of God is very small. Ask yourself if you have thoughts of condemnation towards those who wear crosses. That would be flesh and legalism maybe a religious spirit…[Read more]

Keith,Man begets a little man is an extrabiblical termAnimal begets little animal is an extrabiblical termIf man beget a grown man…ouch is all I have to say about that.So God beget God is just as logical as man begets man.The word was made flesh…not the word was made a son.If you can't see the Son as being a person before Mary then I see your…[Read more]

Terraricca,The cross symbol reminds some people of something spiritual and important and can help people remember to walk in the spirit. Sometimes men carry a cross in their pocket to help them when they are tempted with lust to remember to walk in the spirit instead of the flesh. If it doesn't edify you to see a cross then I'm sorry but I think…[Read more]

I think that satan would love for us not to wear a cross as a remembrance because that is where he was defeated and faced a future of eternal punishment.Eph 2:14-1614 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, 15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 17 2010,09:55)Terra,What you say could be me speaking also. Ask me if I am thrilled…?Lu, also but this bit … Like Terra, I'm not so sure.By coincident … I was looking into this matter earlier this morning.Question 1: By the Scriptures – at what point or time was Jesus 'Begotten'?Question 2: What is the meaning of the…[Read more]

Irene,I think that is probably an act of respect for Christ dying on the cross. I don't believe that the catholics pray to the cross, do they?Love,Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2010,00:29)LUi do not understand God beget God.? were you want to go with this???terraricca,Is it hard for you to understand these:Man begets manAnimal begets animalIf that is not hard for you to understand, then why is it hard for you to understand:God begets godMaybe you haven't considered the word “God/god” as a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 17 2010,01:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 16 2010,19:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 16 2010,01:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,21:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 15 2010,13:52)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,13:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,13:25)Hi, Does any…[Read more]