Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 25 2010,12:08)Hi All,Can anyone explain to me how it is that God says “Let US create Man” and “Let US go down and scatter them” but then says “I, the Lord am ONE” (and other similar over and over in the old testament)Surely he should then have said: “WE ARE WHO WE ARE” and “We, the LORD are One”? and “Beside US, there is no…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,02:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 17 2010,23:37)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2010,00:29)LUi do not understand God beget God.? were you want to go with this???terraricca,Is it hard for you to understand these:Man begets manAnimal begets animalIf that is not hard for you to understand, then why is it hard for you to…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 25 2010,01:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 17 2010,14:47)terraricca,You misunderstood my comment.  No where did I say that the Son was God the Father, in fact, I said that the Son was not the Most High God (the Father).I don't think that one has to be a trinitarian to believe that the Son is God.  God is what would be begotten o…[Read more]

JustAskin,I agree that it could be wrong to worship Jesus is that is the only one worshipped but if you realize that Jesus has a Father and that you know the Father and the Son, then there is no way that you could only worship Jesus because you would know that there was someone even higher than Him.Can't you see that not only it can be wrong, it…[Read more]

Hello,I do believe that the fact that the Son of God has the same nature as the Father, that qualifies Him to be called a god. Since He has angels, a kingdom, followers, authority over all of that to even forgive and judge, perfect love and obedience to the Father, that would make Him not only a god but His follower's God. And His God would be…[Read more]

JustAskin,I agree about semantics and context in regards to the term 'serving' and I think also in the term 'worship.'I do believe we are totally fine to worship Jesus as God since He is God's Son who has the divine nature and authority over us and to whom we owe our eternal life and to worship the Most High God as the Father who always existed…[Read more]

Welcome mikeboll,I also asked a question which led me away from the trinity doctrine. Many blessings on your search here.Enjoy,Kathi/LU/Lightenup

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 24 2010,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 24 2010,15:30)JustAskin,Deut 6:13-1513 “You shall fear only the Lord your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name. 14 “You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, 15 for the Lord your God in the midst of you is a jealous God;…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 24 2010,04:27)katjo,Do I serve my family, 'Yes', I provide a house and home, food, comforts, ethical and spiritual guidance, a listening ear, loving chastisement – and an allowance of boundary pushing so that they can live in this world (After all, it will be their own life that is judge – I cannot Save them, only provide…[Read more]

JustAskin,Deut 6:13-1513 “You shall fear only the Lord your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name. 14 “You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, 15 for the Lord your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; otherwise the anger of the Lord your God will be kindled against you, and He will wipe…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 23 2010,20:00)LU,What is it you are asking?Is there still confusion about the difference between WORSHIP and all other forms of veneration?JustAskin,It is really a simple question: Do you serve your family? Yes or NoKathi

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 23 2010,18:31)LU,Jesus gave an explicit example – and for no simple reason, He knew people would as the same question.He said ' You Shall Worship the Lord (God the Father) and Him only Shall you serve'The word “Shall” is a directive, equivalent to an order, something that is not desputable.So, No, I don't think God would be…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 23 2010,16:50)LU,Your example is fine and true except for one thing:Honor and Worship are not the same things and you have mistakenly mixed up the two.When one Worships one effectively offers oneself, or a precious belonging (a Sacrifice) to the one being Worshipped.When one worships an idol one is offering up one's soul to…[Read more]

JustAskin,I understand your point about our command to worship the Lord our God and serve Him only. I am going to try to explain how you would be doing that even while worshipping His Son.This is an illustration, not perfect but I hope it will help:Let's say there is a young girl and she has only one parent still alive, her father. And let's say…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,09:54)One of the major problems seems to be that people will read something and extract those bits that they WANT to say what they WANT to think:Quote Rev 5:13-1413 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying,…[Read more]

Thinker,Did Jesus also refer to himself as the “High Priest” before he was “installed?” I can't recall that? Dod He go around saying “I am the High Priest?”I believe the real meaning of “today” that you are referring to is the day of His resurrection. I have already told you that. The Son of God as the monogenes theos has no record of a…[Read more]

Impressive Keith…thank you! Kathi

No Thinker, I do not say that because I feel like you have raked me over the coals…hardly…dream on. But that statement that you made about the coals is a perfect example of you not taking words for their real meaning but twisting them to fit your arrogant perceptions. Thus, based on my experience with you, I have noticed that you want to…[Read more]

Thinker,Maybe someone will come along that is willing to waste their time with you arguing…I choose to spend my time more effectively and hopefully more wisely towards a more deserving discourse.

Thinker,Apparently you can't say what Peter said because Peter was speaking in present tense, not future tense which your lofty opinion would require.Matt 16:15-1715 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona,…[Read more]