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Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Berean,
Thanks for the beautiful, calming music…good words!
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
God bless you too Danny Dabbs!
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer
You have mentioned this over and over so, I am going to attempt to address it.
You said:
Isaac is the son of Abraham, and yes both have the same nature, but Isaac is not Abraham. Different identities.
Yes, I realize this.
YHVH, the Son is the son of YHVH, the Father. They both have the same nature and they have different…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer
Are you neglecting to address this post on purpose? I will repeat it here:
PC,
You are correct, Abraham is not talking to the Father. He is talking to YHVH however. Therefore, the person who Abraham is addressing as YHVH, is not the Father but someone other than the Father. YHVH is echad which can mean that YHVH is a unity of more…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Hi Carmel,
You said this and you use a lot of terms that I don’t see in the scripture:
FIRST AND FOREMOST GOD, BEFORE HE CREATED ANYTHING, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IN ORDER TO COMMUNICATE, ESTABLISHED HIS SON, HIS GENUINE ETERNAL ABODE, PRECISELY AS
“THE WORD”
I have italicized the words of yours that don’t make any sense to me, sorry. I don’t k…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
PC,
You said:
I think we can all agree on that. Where you differ is that you think it is okay to call the Son of the Most High as the Most High or the Son of YHWH as YHWH.
First of all, I don’t call the Son “the Most High Father” but I do believe that the Son is the “Most High Son.” Second of all, since I believe that YHVH is the unity of the…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
Please tell me of a son that is higher than Jesus, the firstborn over all creation. If you cannot, then it would be an obvious truth that Jesus is the Most High Son. Think!
Also, if anyone is begotten, they must have existed in order to be begotten. The whole idea of begetting something/someone is to bring it/them forth from point a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Heaven Net supports 'Free Speech'! in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 5 years, 6 months ago
Just as we hope lies are exposed in the government, we hope the lies are exposed on Heaven Net.
There are the deceivers, those deceived by the deceivers, and thankfully, the ones that promote truth and follow the truth. I would guess that most all of us that post on HN regularly, believe that they sincerely are of the group that promotes…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 6 months ago
Wow, great video! What is the name of this guy, PC.
Lightenup replied to the topic Heaven Net supports 'Free Speech'! in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 5 years, 6 months ago
The left have more to fear than what Trump says…pass the popcorn and watch the show, as they say.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Bump for PC
PC,
You are correct, Abraham is not talking to the Father. He is talking to YHVH however. Therefore, the person who Abraham is addressing as YHVH, is not the Father but someone other than the Father. YHVH is echad which can mean that YHVH is a unity of more than one person. Hebrews 1 has the Father telling us who that other person is…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
You said: Jesus is not the Most High. He is the Son of the Most High.
Read my last post to you. Isn’t that what I said?
I believe that there is a “head” within the Unity of YHVH and a Son. That “head” is the Father of the Son. Within the most high unity, there is a Father and a Son. The Son is called the Son of the Most High.
I do…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Sorry Carmel,
Your opinions are not something I find in scripture.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
Jesus is the son of the Most High God who Jesus calls “Father.” They are ONE…as the Most High Unity.
Do you agree? Or do you think there is a higher unity we should believe in for salvation?? Or do you believe the Father and Son are, or were, in dis-unity at some point?
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
Our recent conversation in part:
LU: So, if I understand you correctly, the one that is identified as Yahweh, who appeared to Abraham on earth, standing next to him, talking to him face to face in Genesis 18 is the Father of Jesus in your opinion. Correct?
DD: No. I believe this was Jesus.
Jesus bears the name of His Father.
But…Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Carmel,
You mentioned:
LU, THE PROBLEM IS TO DISTINGUISH WHICH
FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD, HEBREWS 1
The foundation that I am referring to is the one mentioned in Hebrews 1 and Psalms 102. Found here:
8But about the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever,
and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9You have loved rig…Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
PC,
You are correct, Abraham is not talking to the Father. He is talking to YHVH however. Therefore, the person who Abraham is addressing as YHVH, is not the Father but someone other than the Father. YHVH is echad which can mean that YHVH is a unity of more than one person. Hebrews 1 has the Father telling us who that other person is that is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
PC.
Except you don’t see that explanation in the context. It is an opinion that is not backed up in the context. According to the context, the person that Abraham is identifying is not an angel but instead Abraham is identifying YHVH, the “Judge of all the earth.” There is no angel that is “judge of all the earth” PC.
Don’t forget this…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 6 months ago
Danny Dabbs,
So, if I understand you correctly, the one that is identified as Yahweh, who appeared to Abraham on earth, standing next to him, talking to him face to face in Genesis 18 is the Father of Jesus in your opinion. Correct?
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 6 months ago
PC,
Exactly!
“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”
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