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    Nick,That is not what the Bible says. It says that He is the only begotten son many times.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2010,20:02)Hi LU, I believe his monogenes sonship refers to his anointing from above at the Jordan when God first publically declared him to be His Son. After all rebirth from above is how we who follow him can become Sons and Daughters of God.Nick,You keep forgetting the “ONLY” Son part.

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,20:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2010,11:35)Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,06:23)Let me give you my two cents.  Jesus is not only the firstborn of all creation in Col, 1:15 and Rev, 3:14, but He is also called God,  John 1:1 and Hebrew 1:8-9Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; Th…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 28 2010,06:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2010,10:58)Hello all,Much is made about the term “monogenes theos” in John 1:18.  Some on here don't even translate “monogenes” when they recite the verse that it is found in.  They just say “monogenes….”  Of course, I don't think that the word “only” is giving us the fullness of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,06:23)Let me give you my two cents.  Jesus is not only the firstborn of all creation in Col, 1:15 and Rev, 3:14, but He is also called God,  John 1:1 and Hebrew 1:8-9Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of th…[Read more]

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,01:07)KathiWell, I learned something.Flesh + human = usSpirit + angelic = angelsSpirit + deity = GodFlesh + beast = animals.You make it so easy to understand.GeorgGlad to help! Now I can get some rest :) G'niteKathi

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,00:47)KathiI looked through that, and did not realised what you said.And you know what? I was wrong in answering you when I said the scriptures “DO” say that; THEY DO NOT SAY THAT, they do not say “only begotten god”, they say “SON”, only begotten SON, first born.I been looking at the computer to long.But you did…[Read more]

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 28 2010,00:27)KathiWhat is the nature of God?Jhn 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.  What is the nature of angels? are they not spirit?Hbr 2:16   For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. The seed/nature of Abraham, fl…[Read more]

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,21:04)To whoever is interestedJhn 1:18   No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. If Jesus was God, this scripture would not be true.Jesus is the only begotten SON of God, not the only begotten god. Why does it say “ONLY” begotten? Col.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,23:36)Hi LU, He is like his Father because his Father was in him speaking and doing the miraculous works.Do you think he was another God doing his own miracles?Nick,He is not “another” God. He is an only Begotten God. An “only” cannot be an “another.” He did nothing on His own initiative. The Father is not a…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2010,22:28)LU  Posted: Feb. 28 2010,12:05  ——————————————————————————–Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2010,19:47) LUA couple of time, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son.So, we know that the NET translators concluded that the term in John 1:18 is “God” and not “…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,22:51)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 28 2010,11:47)LUA couple of time, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son.So, we know that the NET translators concluded that the term in John 1:18 is “God” and not “Son.”It can't be both, it is either “God” or “Son.” If it is “God” then that verse is extremely significant.  It is…[Read more]

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 27 2010,21:04)To whoever is interestedJhn 1:18   No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. If Jesus was God, this scripture would not be true.Jesus is the only begotten SON of God, not the only begotten god. Why does it say “ONLY” begotten? Col.…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2010,19:47)LUA couple of time, John calls Jesus the only begotten Son.So, we know that the NET translators concluded that the term in John 1:18 is “God” and not “Son.”It can't be both, it is either “God” or “Son.” If it is “God” then that verse is extremely significant.  It is one of those questions that we take to the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2010,19:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2010,11:26)John begins his book with a “God” with “God” concept and near the end John quotes Thomas as saying “My Lord and my God.”Hi again Kathi,And even closer to the end of John he says:Quote 30Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2010,19:09)Hi LU, Is this in all the manuscripts?No. Only begotten Son is in some.So Nick, shall we flip a coin to find out which one is correct, “God” or “son.”John begins his book with a “God” with “God” concept and near the end John quotes Thomas as saying “My Lord and my God.”A couple of time, John calls Jesus the…[Read more]

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    Hello all,Much is made about the term “monogenes theos” in John 1:18. Some on here don't even translate “monogenes” when they recite the verse that it is found in. They just say “monogenes….” Of course, I don't think that the word “only” is giving us the fullness of the term. The Greek word “monos” is where we get “only” and if John meant…[Read more]

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    Praying for your safety! Keep us informed.Kathi

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2010,20:17)Hi Kathi,Q and A time :laugh: Quote How do you show that love to Jesus nowadays if you do not have a relationship with Him?  Like this:  Dear Heavenly Father Jehovah, ….and thank you for the sacrifice of your only son, whom I love…..I pray this to you through you son, Jesus Christ, without whom I would be n…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2010,16:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 22 2010,06:42)Hi Mike,I think that you have not grasped that I worship the Son 'as the Son' and not 'as the Father.Hi Kathi,Wow!  That's a lot of questions! :) Quote You say that you worship Jesus in the sense that you greatly love and admire Him.First of all, I will never again say…[Read more]

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