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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:49)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,15:40)Hi LU, No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.Nick,Oh really???Jer…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 23 2010,16:45)Kathi said:Quote The “hand” is the Son:“Hand” signifies “power.” It is the “power” of the Son which is meant in Hebrews 1:10.thinkerCertainly the hand was the Son's but the power was God's.Jer 32:17-2217 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and by Your outstretched…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,15:40)Hi LU, No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.Nick,Oh really???Jer 32:17-2217 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,14:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,05:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of the Jews all by Himself. He, as the Son, was with His Father as the God (Father) with…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of the Jews all by Himself. He, as the Son, was with His Father as the God (Father)…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of the Jews all by Himself. He, as the Son, was with His Father as the God (Father) with the outstretched arm (Son). The God of the Jews was the God who had an…[Read more]

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    Hi all,The Jews bowed down to the one (God) with the outstretched arm (the Son). God in the OT spoke of His arm as His own self and then in the NT, God reveals that His arm has been and is His own Son. That is why we read things like God creating the heavens and the earth alone and that He alone is God and there is no other, and that there shall…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2010,22:09)Hi LU, So one God is really two and you need to worship both?Nick,Yes, one Most High God and one only begotten God.  Together they are:the God with the outstretched arm one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christour God and Eternal…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,00:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:52)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,00:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:36)terraricca,You have to understand the context of the scripture and who God is in order to understand your verses better.  You act like the Son is not referred to as the “Mighty God” why is that?…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2010,00:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:36)terraricca,You have to understand the context of the scripture and who God is in order to understand your verses better.  You act like the Son is not referred to as the “Mighty God” why is that?  In John 1:1 we find God with God but you don't want to see that either?  …[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    terraricca,You have to understand the context of the scripture and who God is in order to understand your verses better. You act like the Son is not referred to as the “Mighty God” why is that? In John 1:1 we find God with God but you don't want to see that either? You don't seem to accept that the Jews worshiped the God with the outstretched…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2010,22:09)Hi LU, So one God is really two and you need to worship both?Nick,Yes, one Most High God and one only begotten God.  Together they are:the God with the outstretched arm one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christour God and Eternal life.Jesus is the resurrection and the life.Jesus is the way the truth and…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,21:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:33)Nick, terraricca, Irene,The Son has been around ever since God wanted to bring our world into a completed creation and reach out to us.  He did that through His Son who in the OT was figuratively referred to as the “arm of God”  or the “out stretched arm” of God.  As re…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2010,21:30)Hi LU, The only powers the son of God ever had were those given him by his God.Nick,Right! And that is why the Son is the “arm” (figuratively) and not the head (figuratively) of God.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Nick, terraricca, Irene,The Son has been around ever since God wanted to bring our world into a completed creation and reach out to us. He did that through His Son who in the OT was figuratively referred to as the “arm of God” or the “out stretched arm” of God. As revelation progressed, in the NT we realize that the “arm of God” that is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2010,20:33)Hi LU,God reached out his finger and His arm to men since time began. All his prophets manifested his words and power. Jesus was greater than all.Without the anointing of God he was a man like any of us on the earth.Nick,Yes, God reached out His arm to men since the beginning of time and that arm was and is His Son.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 22 2010,17:23)Hi LU, So it is what he did before he was born of Mary that makes you want to worship him. But God said the angels should worship him when he brought him into the world.Should we decide to worship whoever our intellect approves as suitable?Or do we serve according to instructions given?Nick,Christ is not…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 22 2010,17:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,09:09)terraricca,Does your God not have an outstretched arm?LUthe father of Christ is my God what i worship,Christ is his ARMand i recognize him as being the arm who God use to bring us to him,and be one in unity,so that all can be all in him.God can give us live he is the one…[Read more]

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