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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,23:42)Hi LU,The arm is of power and Jesus healed. Jesus also revealed the words and wisdom of God.But only because of his submission and his mighty infilling with God's SpiritWow, Nick, I can't keep up with you but I will try to get to all your questions. Take a break over there in NZ…go check on your vines or…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,23:15)Hi LU,The Lord is the Spirit.If Jesus was a part of God why do you say we should worship him and his God?Nick,I say we should worship “them” because NOW we know the “arm of the Lord” is a separate being than the “Lord” that the arm is of. Paul says that for us:there is one God, the Father who is the “Lord”…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,22:59)Hi LU, Was God then incomplete lacking an arm when Jesus came?Was the power of God shown by his own attrributes or God in him?Nick,God's arm was not at His side, as before, but His arm was not separated from Him spiritually, His arm (the Son) continued being His arm in our realm and returned to God's side…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2010,22:57)Hi Kathi,Are you converting back towards you Trinitarians beliefs?  Do you now think Jesus and God are equally God Almighty?peace and love,mikeMike,No I am not returning to trinitarianism. I believe God's arm spoken of in the OT was revealed as God's Son and that the Father with the Son are together the God…[Read more]

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    Nick,The arm was part of the God that was worshiped. They didn't divide Him into certain body parts and worship Him in parts. They worshiped Him as a whole which included His arm.The arm of God was revealed AS Jesus. Read:Isa 53:1-253 Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He (the arm of the Lord)…[Read more]

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    Nick,The Jews did not separate God from His outstretched arm in their concept and worship of Him. In fact they used singular pronouns when speaking of the God with the outstretched arm. His outstretched arm was not flesh until it took on the flesh in Mary.Jer 27:55 “I have made the earth, the men and the beasts which are on the face of the earth…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,19:36)Hi lU, No. Jesus was not one with God in any way till he obeyed God's will and was found clean at the jordan to be given a share of God's Spirit.Nick,God refers to Jesus as “His own arm” and the Jews worshiped God and His arm as one, echad-unity. With this “arm” (the Son) God also founded the earth and…[Read more]

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    Good job Nick,I agree!Their spiritual unity has existed since the Son existed before creation.

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    Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 22 2010,00:45)Hello!  Knowing that with God all is possible, I come here to ask for your prayers.  Our only Granddaughter is having some real upsetting problems.  She just turned 18 on March 18.  I am sorry but I can't tell you what it is, but it is very upsetting for our Granddaughter and Daughter and the whole Family.  Pl…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,00:43)Hi LU, 2Cor3.17This is the great understanding Paul came to that explains jn 14 18-23Nick,I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here in regards to the discussion. Do you want to expand on your thoughts?

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    Thanks Nick,It is too late to decipher this now…maybe later.Goodnight

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,00:22)Hi LU, The LORD is the Spirit.Jesus in the NT is the Lord of all.Jesus is only alive in the Spirit and now any reference to him is also to the Spirit.Nick,Would you mind showing me the scripture ref. for the Lord is the Spirit.Thanks!

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    I found this article here about the trinitarian formula for baptism:http://www.sidroth.org/site….rl=1051It was written by Lonnie Lane, a fourth generation Jew but first generation believer in Yeshua. It is pretty interesting.Quote …What we call “The Great Commission” reads in most of our Bibles this way: “Go therefore and make disciples of al…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,23:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,14:00)Hi Mike,I told you that I have been interested in the Jewish perspective lately.  Recently God has highlighted the “outstretched arm” of God to me.  The Jews saw God as one being with an outstretched arm and that is who they worshiped.  I am once again seeing the si…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,Yes it has been a while. About the Pharisees…I do think the spirit of the Pharisees are among some of our most regular members of HN and they have had a problem with the whole outstretched arm of the Lord being the Son. Too bad really because it really helps explain things.

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    Hi Mike,I told you that I have been interested in the Jewish perspective lately. Recently God has highlighted the “outstretched arm” of God to me. The Jews saw God as one being with an outstretched arm and that is who they worshiped. I am once again seeing the significance of that outstretched arm revealed as the Son of God and lo and behold I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,17:57)Hi LU, The Spirit of God that was in Jesus and the prophets created.Ps104Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.The finger and the arm of God.Not exactly Nick,The spirit gave the breath of life to that which God created through the Son.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,18:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,17:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Binity in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,17:12)Hi LU, Jesus was not a part of God before he was born.Nick,He wasn't a literal arm. The Jews concept of God included His outstretched arm and lo and behold, we are told that the outstretched arm is the Son of God. It turns out that they were worshiping the Father and the Son without realizing it. Many of…[Read more]

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