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Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,Seem like a marathon yet?you said:Quote You quoted:QuoteRev 22:6-96 And he said to me, “These words are faithful and true”; and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent His angel to show to His bond-servants the things which must soon take place.But you should have started one verse earlier:Quote5There will be no more night.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,15:17)Hi LU, You used to say Jesus was another god, the only begotten one but now you say he was always part of God. So what do you believe?Nick,The arm is the only begotten God and always was, imo. The arm is figurative.
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,Quote The Bible and Jesus in particular are clear about who to worship – God. And considering “angel” means “messenger”, you could be correct in saying Jesus was an angel.QuoteJohn 13:16 NIVI tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.I think Jesus was always greater…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Mike,Quote Is Jesus also the “signs, wonders, war, mighty hand, and great terrors”?You said:QuoteJesus is not an angel. The Bible is clear about not worshiping angels but it never says not to worship the Son does it.The Bible and Jesus in particular are clear about who to worship – God. And considering “angel” means “messenger”, you could be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,14:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,14:29)Hi LU, God is not divided but one. God wants all to be made one with Him in His Son.Is Jesus not the Son of God now you make him an integral part of God?Nick,Keep it in the order of revelation…first God reveals the God of Israel as the one with the outstretched arm, then He reveals His arm as His son and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,I'm going to take this piece by piece.Quote Hi Kathi,I haven't followed this “arm of God” thinking of yours thoroughly. I will say that by the statements you make like…QuoteAgain, we see the One with the “outstretched arm” receiving worship:And:QuoteIt was obviously acceptable for the God with the outstretched arm of the OT to receive…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' “Sounds clear to me.Hi Mike,No, I never said that. I said that it never…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,14:03)Hi LU, If Jesus already was a part of God why did God have to fill him with His Spirit to empower him?Hi Nick,Jesus needed the HS because He had emptied Himself of His own power and because He was not in the presence of the Father like He was before.
Lightenup replied to the topic The cross….not the correct symbol for adoration in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,01:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2010,16:50)terraricca,I first heard of it today while listening to a CD about Covenant knowledge and then I googled it and found many sites saying the same thing. I didn't find scriptural references about it. They say that it was a well known custom for the Jews. If I ever co…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The cross….not the correct symbol for adoration in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 27 2010,02:31)Even if there was such a tradition of planting a memorial tree; how can you draw a connection between that tree, and a cross made from two beams that Jesus died on?GeorgI don't think it is so much of a stretch Georg. The cross was beams from a tree with the blood splattered on it from the sacrifice. Google “…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 26 2010,07:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 26 2010,13:59)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 25 2010,16:52)nickLU ,like to be out of scriptures and worship what ever she feels like to do,she has made up her mind that God as a arm and that at one point the arm his Christ ,to her it give the reason to worship Christ and go up the arm and so…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The cross….not the correct symbol for adoration in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 16 years, 2 months ago
terraricca,I first heard of it today while listening to a CD about Covenant knowledge and then I googled it and found many sites saying the same thing. I didn't find scriptural references about it. They say that it was a well known custom for the Jews. If I ever come across a Biblical reference, I will try to remember to let you know.
Lightenup replied to the topic The cross….not the correct symbol for adoration in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 16 years, 2 months ago
Hello,I just learned today about the nine step blood covenant that Jews practiced (I put the ninth step in quotes and thought it would be an interest here in defense of the cross as a memorial.):Quote 9. PLANTING A MEMORIAL TREEA tree, sprinkled with the blood of the slain animal, would be planted. This was a testimony to the covenant. As the tree…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,22:10)Hi LU, Jesus never taught there are two gods and he is one of them. That is your deduction but it takes you away from truth.Jesus had no power except that which was given to himNick,Angels are greater in might and power than men and the Son of God, before He became the Son of Man, was greater than the angels…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2010,16:29)Hi LU, Because you can align the arm of the Lord with Jesus in Isaiah does not give you carte blanche to assume all such references in scripture are to Jesus.God uses many instruments to show his power.Hi Nick,The power of God is not the arm of the Lord. The arm of the Lord is Christ yesterday, today and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 25 2010,16:52)nickLU ,like to be out of scriptures and worship what ever she feels like to do,she has made up her mind that God as a arm and that at one point the arm his Christ ,to her it give the reason to worship Christ and go up the arm and so worship God the father,she will worship the Son if he likes it or not ,she…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Getting to know You in the forum Chatroom 16 years, 2 months ago
Hey soulja,Welcome to the HN world. How did you find HN? I am so glad that you don't serve the evil one anymore. I have a 17 year old son. Be careful on here because there are a lot of opinions and they can't all be true. You are 17 and still very impressionable. The evil one can and does work through people on Christian message boards but…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 2 months ago
Right Nick,The arm of the Lord (the Son of God) did many things and through Jesus, the arm of the Lord (the Son of God) did and will do and is doing much more.
Lightenup replied to the topic The only god who is in the forum Scriptural Teachings 16 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,23:28)Hi LU,So the child of Mary was the arm of God? Seemed an ordinary if knowlegeable boy.Then God's Spirit was poured into him equipping him for ministry. Of what relevance was his previous life to his ministry?Nick,You ask what the relevance of the Son's previous existence before Mary and to answer that you…[Read more]
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