Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,20:38)Hi LU, Then why did Jesus say true worshipers worship the Father?Nick,Why? Because it is right to do. But to do that in truth you must receive the Son…apart from the Son, you cannot worship the Father in truth.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2010,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,06:08)Where did Jehovah ever say that you can worship me but not my outstretched arm?Hi Kathi,Correction on the “by” accepted.  I should have used “from” God, not “by” God.As far as your question above, a better question is when did God, Jesus or anybody else for that matter…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2010,11:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,08:41)Col 1:16-1816 For by Him (the Son) all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities — all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2010,11:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2010,03:13)18 “As for his father, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was not good among his people, behold, he will die for his iniquity. 19 “Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity?' When the son has practiced…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2010,10:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,16:40)Nick,Our own theories is all anyone has.  You have your own theory too.  You think that Jesus was just a normal man like the rest of us but if that were so, his death would not pay for all mankind.  The scriptures say that a righteous man can not die in the place of th…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 28 2010,03:22)LU,Just curious:  where, in Scriptures, does it say that 'Righteous man cannot die for unRighteous man'?Again, with curiosity: Are there others who believe your 'Binity'?JustAskin,I do not use the term “binity,” it is not a Biblical term. I use the term “unity.” The idea of unity of more than one is…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 28 2010,04:11)LU,I don't understand your response to my post. What did you mean by 'there is only one begotten son'?Does the Scriptures not say that we will be 'Joint Heirs' with Christ? (Rev 20:4, 6; 22:5; Galations 4:7)JustAskin,We are joint heirs with Christ but He is/was/will be the only actual, literal son of God and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,01:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,16:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,00:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,15:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,23:09)Hi LU, There are no scriptures that say Jesus was a combined God with his God and then God's arm divided from God and cameNeither are there two…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,23:34)LUjewish phylosophy, through out history ,they never fallow allways at to go there way,look history for what result they have recieved from their God ,you just like to go the same way,this is not the true way of Godterraricca,We are to encourage one another as we see the day drawing near dear terraricca. Let…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2010,00:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,15:32)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,23:09)Hi LU, There are no scriptures that say Jesus was a combined God with his God and then God's arm divided from God and cameNeither are there two Gods.Nick,OR you haven't been given that revelation yet.  Do you think that God is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,23:09)Hi LU, There are no scriptures that say Jesus was a combined God with his God and then God's arm divided from God and cameNeither are there two Gods.Nick,OR you haven't been given that revelation yet. Do you think that God is with Himself in John 1:1?In the beginning was the word and the word was with God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,19:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,08:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:35)Jesus IS the outstretched arm.  Isaiah sees this and writes about it and is confirmed in John.Hi Kathi,I should have rephrased it.  Where is “the outstretched arm” worshipped as God A…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 27 2010,18:56)Elizabeth,Could the word 'Divine' be a better description for Jesus rather than 'Deity'.One cannot 'become God' but one can become 'Godlike'.Those born into the first resurrection and taken into heaven to rule with Christ will also be 'Divine', 'brothers' with Christ!If, they too, were 'Deity', how many…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2010,03:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2010,18:41)Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 27 2010,02:31)Even if there was such a tradition of planting a memorial tree; how can you draw a connection between that tree, and a cross made from two beams that Jesus died on?GeorgI don't think it is so much of a stretch Georg.  The cross was beams…[Read more]

Mike,You said:Jesus said:QuoteJohn 17:3 NIV Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.And this “only true God” is the one that Jesus repeatedly points people to and says to worship. Doesn't that imply that we must exclude the worship of any other god or idol? Even if it is “the only…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:32)Do you think the OT God is not the NT God?Mike,The OT God is the NT God but less revealed.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,07:28)Jesus is not an angel…they were made through Him, see Col. 1.  He made all things in heaven, visible and invisible, remember.Hi Kathi,No, all things were made BY God THROUGH Jesus.  And although Jesus is the only creation of God that was begotten directly from God, t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:35)Jesus IS the outstretched arm.  Isaiah sees this and writes about it and is confirmed in John.Hi Kathi,I should have rephrased it.  Where is “the outstretched arm” worshipped as God Almighty?Mike,The outstretched arm isn't ever worshiped apart from God Almighty in the O…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,16:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,15:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:53)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2010,14:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2010,06:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 27 2010,12:27)One more thought, Kathi:You say it never says to worship God “ONLY”, but Jesus quotes Deut in saying:Quote Matthew 4:10 NIV Jesus said to him, “Away from…[Read more]