Carmel,

You said: ALL THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO JESUS’ PREXISTENCE AS A SPIRIT!

It is a reference to the only begotten Son of God who was in the same form as his Father before creation.

PC, what is the name of that national park in Australia?

Hi Carmel,

Thank you for rewriting your post. That was much easier to follow.

I see those references in Hebrews, Psalms 2, Acts 13, to the “begetting” as taking place from the dead. Hence, He is called “Firstborn from the dead.” Jesus, however is certainly identified as God’s Son already many times before he was begotten from the dead.

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This is a compilation of some of the many waterfalls in my area of the States. Enjoy!

Both of those videos are showing places that are so diverse from  each other. New Zealand certainly doesn’t lack in natural beauty. I love the waterfalls among the lush green trees and those layered stone hills are unlike anything I’ve ever seen! Do you know the type of rock that makes up those hill?

Thanks for sharing, PC.

@Danny Dabbs

You said:

It seems that God the Father Himself believes that His Son is God and Yahweh.
(Hebrews 1:10-12; Psalm 102:24-27)

You are absolutely right Danny! Christians everywhere see this also 😉

I’m glad you are here,

LU

PC

PC said:

To be fair. God is the head of all. Yes Christ is the head, but Hod is the head of him. God is the Most High.

The Most High Father is the only direct head of the Most High Son. The Most High Son is the only direct head of the church. The Most High Son and the Most High Father are ONE as a perfect unity, the Unity of YHVH.

Carmel,

The God, who is the Son of God the Father, is the head of the church, not the Father. The Father did not shed his “own blood.” The Father did not become flesh.

Your last post to me is written in a way that I asked you not to write when addressing me because it is not easily readable, imo, and I am not interested in deciphering lengthy,…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

This has been asked of you since January 9, 2021. Here is a reminder:

PC,

Who does the Father identify as

laying the foundations of the earth in this passage:

In Hebrews 1

8But about the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever,

and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.

9You have loved rig…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

LU: If the YHVH Unity were a family, then just as Jesus is the Son within the YHVH family, his Father is the Father within the YHVH family.

PC:I could make the same argument that they are aliens too.

But a wise person sticks to scripture and doesn’t let their imagination run wild with things they really know nothing about.

Then I s…[Read more]

Carmel,

Have you got any suggestion when Jesus was begotten on earth in relation to the scriptures hereunder:

Acts 13:33 This same God hath fulfilled to our children, raising up Jesus, as in the SECOND PSALM also is written: Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

Psalm 2 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto m…

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Carmel,

They are one WHAT?

ONE GOD! NO?

22I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one— 23I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united,

They are one, i.e. perfectly united.

Carmel,

Also, is the church “God” because the head of the church is “God?”

Which scripture declares that

“the head of the church is God”

1 Cor 11:3

But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

Acts 20:28

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Thanks Berean, another beautiful performance. I have never heard of a panflute.

God bless you too,

LU

Proclaimer,

PC, you write this (without understanding or merely not wanting to understand, idk): If God was a family then just as Jesus is the Son of God, the Father would be the Father of God.

This is more accurate if the YHVH Unity were a family:

If the YHVH Unity were a family, then just as Jesus is the Son within the YHVH family, his Father…[Read more]

Carmel,

Carmel: the title GOD is equally related to the Father and the Son; they are ONE!

They are one WHAT?

Also, is the church “God” because the head of the church is “God?”

Carmel,

He is the Firstborn of the One he calls his father, not of every creature.

Proclaimer,

PC: How can God be his head if Christ is God.

Two persons are identified as God, one is the Father of the other. Jesus says they are ONE.

In the Jones Family (for example), there are more than one person. The “Jones” that is the father, is head of the “Jones” that is his son. Understand?

Both are “Jones”, they are one family unity,…[Read more]

Carmel:

Carmel: Personally I don’t separate God’s work and put the Father as a superior figure!

1 Cor 11:3

But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

Carmel,

LU: Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation:

Carmel: So for you the above asserts that God begat His Son before creation, Even if it doesn’t clearly says so!

4416 prōtótokos (from 4413 /prṓtos, “first, pre-eminent” and 5088 /tíktō, “bring forth”)

Firstborn, first begotten, same thing. Therefore, Co…[Read more]