David,Your post is too long to handle at one sitting, so I am just going to make short posts in response to you.I said:Quote God never speaks about the Christian cross as a detestable thing. Jesus keeps using the term “cross” as a figurative term and not in a detestable way at all.you said:Quote QuoteNo, he used “stauros” and “xylon” as a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2010,18:27)Hi LU, Tradition says God became incarnate as Jesus.But Jesus is the Son of that God.Nick,The begotten God, the Son of God, became incarnate as Jesus, not the Most High God, the Father.

Quote (JustAskin @ April 10 2010,03:11)LU,Do you read in Revelation where an angel twice says to John: 'Worship God'The angel, in the presence of God and the Lamb (Jesus Christ), said only 'Worship God'.I have offered Revelation to act as the extreme time example. Do you not read 'God desires Worship from such like as them' elsewhere between…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 11 2010,02:03)Hi all,Can I just ask, in passing: Is 'the only begotten Son, which is in the bosim of the Father…' correct grammar?Should it not read '…who…' or is their some significance in the specific word used. Or maybe just a transliteral error?Like I said, only passing through.JA,Here is John 1:18 in many…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2010,22:46)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2010,09:00)Nick,Here is your second God…the only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father.  And the Father is also God, btw.  Two Gods, one Godhead.John 1:18 ContextNET ©No one has ever seen God. The only one, 1  himself God, who is in closest fellowship wit…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 10 2010,11:14)Quote (Lightenup @ April 10 2010,17:17)Ok terraricca,What comes to mind that you have twisted is this: you said the Bible says to “worship the Father only” and as I have pointed out to you, the Bible doesn't say that.  It says to worship the Lord your God and serve Him only, referring to an OT passage.LUdo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2010,11:22)Quote (t8 @ April 10 2010,00:41)There are many more thrones than two.e.g., Matthew 19:28Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of…[Read more]

Ok terraricca,What comes to mind that you have twisted is this: you said the Bible says to “worship the Father only” and as I have pointed out to you, the Bible doesn't say that.  It says to worship the Lord your God and serve Him only, referring to an OT passage.

Quote (david @ April 09 2010,23:11)Lightenup, your statements are sort of a false argument.I'm saying that Jesus died on a “stauros” also referred to 5 times as “xylon.”  The primary meaning of stauros is “stake” and the meaning of xylon is “timber.”In your words, “Google it yourself…do some research on it.”What I'm saying is that if we only…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 09 2010,20:16)Quote (Lightenup @ April 10 2010,10:15)Quote (terraricca @ April 09 2010,14:00)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2010,16:35)Hi LU, The common myth is that folk go to heaven when they die.The meek shall inherit the earth.nickyou see here is the typical answer of twisters,this is  LU says;;Well, Nick, you are…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 09 2010,14:00)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2010,16:35)Hi LU, The common myth is that folk go to heaven when they die.The meek shall inherit the earth.nickyou see here is the typical answer of twisters,this is  LU says;;Well, Nick, you are getting off topic.  Maybe you should find a thread for thatthis answer stand for “…[Read more]

People, why do you speak of the pagan meanings of things when God has given us trees and land, planets and stars, days and months. Focus on the God who made the heaven and earth and all that is in heaven and earth. Seek first the kingdom of God and not the kingdom of darkness. Let the Christian meaning be upon your thoughts and give no power to…[Read more]

Well, Nick, you are getting off topic. Maybe you should find a thread for that.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2010,00:24)Hi LU,No it speaks of SHEOL.Nick,Here is that part of the passage:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of Sheol, For He will receive me.If God redeemed our soul from the power of hell, that doesn't mean that we went to hell but that hell had no power over us. I don't think this matters to answer…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2010,16:44)Hi LU, So where was the SOUL, in the verse you quote, when it was redeemed? Sheol in the earth is the home of the souls of natural men after death.Hades could not hold Jesus and neither can the gates of hades hold the sons of God who go to the mansions of Christ. But the soul is not the spirit. The spirit…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ April 08 2010,15:21)Nick,Have you noticed how TT and WJ appear and disappear from the forum at almost the same time – Perhaps THEY ARE ONE, a left hand one and a righthand one with nothing in the middle?JA,Does that kind of comment please the Lord?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2010,15:18)Quote (Lightenup @ April 09 2010,06:45)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 07 2010,22:51)Hi LU, His own spirit left him at calvary.That is what happens when men die.Jn 19.30Mt 27.50Lk 23.46Ecc 12Yes Nick,Our spirit and soul leave our mortal body and returns to the Father, but that is not the end of the story.  God…[Read more]

So terraricca, do you understand them and you just want my understanding, or do you not understand them?

Quote (JustAskin @ April 08 2010,14:23)LU,But you have not answerd Mike's question,Nover mind my rantings – you should have got over that by now – stick to the Q's at hand.Please answer Mike's question from the picture that you are forming in your mosaic, collage, fresco or ought else.JA,I only have an idea as to why there are two different…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 07 2010,22:51)Hi LU, His own spirit left him at calvary.That is what happens when men die.Jn 19.30Mt 27.50Lk 23.46Ecc 12Yes Nick,Our spirit and soul leave our mortal body and returns to the Father, but that is not the end of the story. God gives our spirit and soul a new, immortal body and so He did with Christ. Christ…[Read more]