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    Hi Berean,

    It is interesting to speculate. I don’t think that scripture directly says what you speculate though. I’m not saying that “brainstorming” is wrong but posting it as truth is misleading.  Agree?

    LU

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    Hi Danny,

    I was wondering the same thing. I assume, since PC hasn’t been posting for a while, he hasn’t been spending time on HN to delete the spammers. It is eye opening how many there are that he must have to deal with regularly.

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    Carmel,

    Jesus did pre-exist his flesh as a spirit without flesh,  and was and is and always will be part of the oneness of YHVH whether begotten or pre-begotten. The begetting does not change the oneness of YHVH which the Father and Son both belong.

    God bless,

    LU

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    Gene,

    Is the Father independently the one true God AND eternal life?

    OR

    Is the Father, being the one true God and eternal life dependent on the Son’s obedience unto becoming man and obeying the Father even unto death, and being raised again to eternal life?

    Did what Jesus did, make the Father God AND eternal life? In other words, can you h…[Read more]

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    @ Danny Dabbs @ berean

    Hi guys, I’m glad that you can see that the only begotten Son of God has the name YHVH, which is also the name of his Father.

    I believe that Jesus is identified as YHVH and the Father is identified as YHVH in the scriptures.

    They share an eternal nature yet are distinct from each other as individual persons.

    Both,…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer @DannyDabbs

    Perhaps PC is enjoying a much needed holiday since he has still not put up a rebuttal post to my January 9th proof of the Son of God being identified as YHVH by his Father. I hope the Holy Spirit is opening his mind to that truth.

    Today I saw this video for the first time which addresses the same scriptures which I used…[Read more]

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    @Danny Dabbs,

    Looks like Proclaimer has gotten distracted from the January 9th question.

    Have you any thoughts about Jesus being identified as YHVH and God?

     

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    Carmel,

    You said: ALL THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO JESUS’ PREXISTENCE AS A SPIRIT!

    It is a reference to the only begotten Son of God who was in the same form as his Father before creation.

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    PC, what is the name of that national park in Australia?

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    Hi Carmel,

    Thank you for rewriting your post. That was much easier to follow.

    I see those references in Hebrews, Psalms 2, Acts 13, to the “begetting” as taking place from the dead. Hence, He is called “Firstborn from the dead.” Jesus, however is certainly identified as God’s Son already many times before he was begotten from the dead.

    Co…[Read more]

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    This is a compilation of some of the many waterfalls in my area of the States. Enjoy!

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    Both of those videos are showing places that are so diverse from  each other. New Zealand certainly doesn’t lack in natural beauty. I love the waterfalls among the lush green trees and those layered stone hills are unlike anything I’ve ever seen! Do you know the type of rock that makes up those hill?

    Thanks for sharing, PC.

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    @Danny Dabbs

    You said:

    It seems that God the Father Himself believes that His Son is God and Yahweh.
    (Hebrews 1:10-12; Psalm 102:24-27)

    You are absolutely right Danny! Christians everywhere see this also 😉

    I’m glad you are here,

    LU

     

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    PC

    PC said:

    To be fair. God is the head of all. Yes Christ is the head, but Hod is the head of him. God is the Most High.

    The Most High Father is the only direct head of the Most High Son. The Most High Son is the only direct head of the church. The Most High Son and the Most High Father are ONE as a perfect unity, the Unity of YHVH.

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    Carmel,

    The God, who is the Son of God the Father, is the head of the church, not the Father. The Father did not shed his “own blood.” The Father did not become flesh.

    Your last post to me is written in a way that I asked you not to write when addressing me because it is not easily readable, imo, and I am not interested in deciphering lengthy,…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer

    This has been asked of you since January 9, 2021. Here is a reminder:

    PC,

    Who does the Father identify as

    laying the foundations of the earth in this passage:

    In Hebrews 1

    8But about the Son He says:

    “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever,

    and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.

    9You have loved rig…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer,

    LU: If the YHVH Unity were a family, then just as Jesus is the Son within the YHVH family, his Father is the Father within the YHVH family.

    PC:I could make the same argument that they are aliens too.

    But a wise person sticks to scripture and doesn’t let their imagination run wild with things they really know nothing about.

    Then I s…[Read more]

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    Carmel,

    Have you got any suggestion when Jesus was begotten on earth in relation to the scriptures hereunder:

    Acts 13:33 This same God hath fulfilled to our children, raising up Jesus, as in the SECOND PSALM also is written: Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

    Psalm 2 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto m…

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    Carmel,

    They are one WHAT?

    ONE GOD! NO?

    22I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one— 23I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united,

    They are one, i.e. perfectly united.

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    Carmel,

    Also, is the church “God” because the head of the church is “God?”

    Which scripture declares that

    “the head of the church is God”

    1 Cor 11:3

    But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

    Acts 20:28

    Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flo…[Read more]

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