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    Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2010,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2010,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,15:06)JA,John 17:11-12Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not…[Read more]

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    Nick,The Son is the only begotten God, the Arm of the Lord throughout the OT which was revealed in the NT.You said:Quote Weak vessels best show His strength but what about other gods or supermen? The Son is what He is. You are trying so hard to make Him fit your little box. He is beyond our logical ways. He is the root of David and also the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2010,01:44)Hi LU, Same as with Jesus and his God?No, not the same Nick. The Son has the same name 'Jehovah' as in Jehovah Saves. That didn't make the Son into the person of the Father anymore than your son would be you even if he were named 'Nick.'

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2010,01:26)Hi LU, You now downplay the major hope of your two God theory?Lk 1.51 glorifying God shows it is the strength of God that is His arm, not another god.Nick,I am simplifying something for you that you are trying to make more complex than it is.Luke 1:51Quote 6And Mary said: “(BA)My soul (BB)exalts the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2010,17:46)Hi LU, Jesus gave us his name. We bring folk into the kingdom in his name. But we do not become him any more than he became his own father.Nick,We are identified with Christ but not as Christ. We have access through His name, but we are not named Jesus.You are right to say that we do not become Jesus and he…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2010,16:29)Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2010,18:04)Note this verse:17:10 Everything 28  I have belongs to you, 29  and everything you have belongs to me, 30  and I have been glorified by them. 31you said: Quote The context is about Jesus not losing one of the children his Father gave him except Judas.  He kept them in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2010,16:08)Hi Kathi,Read it again.  The things foretold that would happen by God bareing His holy arm are the exact things that Cyrus fulfilled for Him.  That's why I put the Ezra quotes in the post.  (The holy instruments of the temple being returned and such.)I'm convinced I will find more as I continue reading th…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike and Nick,Let's not over analyze the finger and arm of God. I believe that God acts through the Son and the Spirit as if they were His arm and finger. The question is this, is the arm of God actually a person and is the finger of God actually a person. I think that the arm of God in many contexts is the Son, a person, and the finger of…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,And one begotten God.

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    Nick,I agree with the Living Word.

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    Nick,If all is of God, even the God at His side is of Him…the one that is our Lord.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2010,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,15:06)JA,John 17:11-12Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ May 05 2010,02:48)LU,'Reflected light',,, you mean, like the Moon? Jesus, analogically, is the Moon to God who , analogically, is the Sun.Is this your understanding?That the 'Moon' is the 'Light of men'?JA,Reflected light, like when one person soaks up another's thoughts, actions and words and character and passes that on to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2010,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,16:50)Mike, you have researched the Outstretched Arm and have come up with no evidence that the outstretched arm applied to anyone other than the Son of God.  The only passage you mentioned was equating a man as a tool, not as an outstretched arm.Hi Kathi,YET.  I said I hadn't c…[Read more]

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    Quote (karmarie @ May 06 2010,00:45)Quote (karmarie @ April 29 2010,11:01)Quote (Lightenup @ April 29 2010,07:14)I am just asking you to have some integrity when you quote someone.  I realize that quoting a part of someone's post can be reasonable and without misrepresentation and with integrity to respect that person's freedom of speech.  When y…[Read more]

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    Nick,The Father and the Son are one. We serve both!

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2010,00:38)Hi LU, Is thinking things enough to declare them? God is I AM WHO AM and there is no other God.Nick,There is no other God except the Lord God with the Outstretched Arm. The Outstretched Arm is the Son, called Jehovah Saves.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2010,23:38)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote So, since Gen 18:3 has the #113 (Adown) Lord in it, then it shouldn't have been changed to Jehovah. I'm not sure you're clear on the translation question.  Nobody “changed” Lord to Jehovah.  The oldest MSS already have Jehovah in those 134 places.  Why the scribes changed some of the “J…[Read more]

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    Nick,1 Cor 1:23-2423 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. NASU1 Cor 1:30-3130 But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2010,23:10)Hi LU, So when did he become YAH and no longer BE  YAHSHUA?Nick,I think the Son was Yahweh first and then became Yahshua which means Yahweh Saves. The Bible does not tell us when. Sons are named typically when they are born.

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