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Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Carmel,
I certainly do not agree with you in that post, sorry.
For instance:
The “giving” of his body was figurative, not literal. No one really ate Jesus’ flesh or drank his blood. He uses bread and wine as objects to remind us of his bodily sacrifice for our sins. Also, his body did not undergo decay because it was resurrected on the third…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
Hi Keras,
You said:
So Kim C, was not from God and to even listen to him is a mistake, as we DO have all the information about Gods Plans for our future in our Bibles.
And you also said this:
I do not have the time or inclination to find out what Kim C prophesied.
Why would I, or anyone? The Bible prophets have said it all, our future is all…
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Hi Jodi,
I have several thoughts towards your post to me, so to keep it short, for starters:
You stated:
The celestial messengers of God are God’s Sons. They are eternally led by the Spirit of God, so thus they are eternal Sons of God. They existed prior to the creation we read in Genesis.
I would love to know why you think the “celestial me…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Thanks Berean, that’s beautiful and so calming.
Enjoy your weekend,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Mary being the only women God had sex with that brought forth the “only begotten of God”, by God himself in the womb of a women.
Gene, did you really mean to claim that God had sex with Mary?
A begetting is not always sexual Gene. It can be asexual, it can also be figurative. It can also mean “brought forth” from one place…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Hi Jodi,
I hope you are well 🙂
Regarding 1 John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
From what I understand of your beliefs, you deny that there is/was a Son of God that existed in a living way in the image of his father, before creation.
It seems that you believe that the Son…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
keras,
What “end time events” do you claim that Kim C. prophesied about? From what I have heard from him, he was prophesying about events in the future but not distant end time events. Also, what do you think he said that was false?
Regarding Daniel 12:4,9…that is about the end times and I do not deny that.
Kim C did not give end time…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
You said:
Lu….I know what you are trying to say, but , no matter what you say, a Father always premises his Son, God told Abraham he would be the Father of many nations, “would be”, not that he already was.
I think what you are trying to say is that the person who will be a father to his future son, will have already existed as a person b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
Keras,
Read this:
Acts 11:27-30
27Now at this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28One of them, named Agabus, stood up and indicated by the Spirit that there would definitely be a severe famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius. 29And to the extent that any of the disciples had means, each of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
You asked:
Lu…..A father alway exists before his Son does right?
No, that’s not right. Up until the moment of conception, the one about to be a father is not a father yet unless he has already had his first child.
One has to have, at the very least, a developing living fetus offspring in existence in order to truly be a father in the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Berean and Carmel,
The ascension that Jesus speaks about when he says that he will raise himself up on the third day, IMO, is this one:
John 20:17
Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
Hi Keras,
What about the early church prophet and his prophecy of a world event in Acts 11:27-30?
That seems to contradict your above post where you claim this:
There has not been another real Prophet since Jesus and the Apostles. There are a few who prophecy over individuals, but none over nations or world events.
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer
Here are a couple of videos of Kat Kerr:
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
Proclaimer,
Have you listened to Kat Kerr?
Lightenup replied to the topic Kim Clement – A prophet? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 5 years, 4 months ago
Isn’t this an example of a prophecy of a world wide event??
Acts 11:28-29
One of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the Spirit that there would certainly be a great famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius. And in the proportion that any of the disciples had means, each of them determined to send a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
1 John 2:23
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Gene,
What you said here is completely false:
God the Father would have existed no matter if Jesus did or not .
God would have existed no matter if the relationship of Father and Son existed or not. He would not have existed as “Father” though.
Fyi, nothing else would have existed without that which eternally existed becoming the relationship of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Yes…your video nailed it on the head. Where can I find that video? That has been my main message on here and this picture is something that I found to most closely represent the notion of something coming from eternal existence that results in both a Father and an offspring, see here:

Imagine this as a picture of the eternal essence…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Ed J, it is clear that his answer is “no,” but for some reason you can’t see that.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 4 months ago
Ed J
Ed J wrote:
Hi Berean, your words don’t add up.
Are you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?
Are you claiming to not comprehend the idea of more than one member in the unity of YHVH which is Father, Son , and Spirit?
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