Quote (t8 @ June 10 2010,03:15)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2010,14:53)Hi t8, If only folk looked to the one Source, the Father of spirits, they would not wander off into useless speculation.True.It is in the nature of man to do what the original man did. To stray from the truth.t8,And that is why we test all things.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,23:12)Hi LU, You certainly can lay claim to a very unique understanding but should you boast?Is it truth?Nick,I don't think that I am being boastful because I say that I understand something in a way that you don't. If I find understanding and you don't, is that being boastful. Should I let go of my…[Read more]

Please pray again for my Dad…I can't even talk about it. Thanks!

Hi Irene,My heart goes out to your daughter. May God shine upon her and be gracious to her and lift her countenances up. He is the lifter of our head.

JA,Zech 2 should help you too see that Jehovah is sent by the Jehovah of hosts. Two called Jehovah, i.e. Lord and Lord of hosts as often translated. Focus in on v. 8-11.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,23:35)Hi LU, God was in Christ. Was God in God?Nick,Yes the spirit of the unbegotten God was in the begotten God.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2010,23:08)Hi Kathi,I have seen how the spirit works through you, I think.  I have had the priviledge of watching you school WJ and Roo in the prototokos thread.  Your arguments are clear and concise and scripturally founded.  I truly believe you are being guided.Then I come back to this thread and notice that your ar…[Read more]

Mike,One Jehovah is called the Lord and the other Jehovah is called the Lord of hosts. The Lord of Hosts sends the Lord and many nations will join themselves with the Lord and become His people.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,23:09)Hi LU, Really? Were the sons of God present when the foundations of earth were being laid?Did they create together or does the Spirit of God create?Nick,The angels were only witnesses to the creation, they did not create. Another thing you are confused about.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,22:13)Hi LU, Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God. His own life comes from His GodThe Lord is the SpiritNick,Their unity as your head is pertinent to your salvation. One without the other does not allow for your salvation.Jehovah of hosts and Jehovah Our Righteousness together save those who believe and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,22:37)Hi LU, Confusion, by definition, is not disagreement with you that there are two Gods. My God is not a God of such confusion but of peace.Nick,And the God of peace wants to lead you into that peace and out of your confusion. Follow Him.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,22:33)Hi LU,God was not alone.Who was God speaking with?Nick,Exactly, God was not alone…the only unbegotten God was speaking to the only begotten God. See how it all comes back to the start, the foundation.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,22:53)Hi t8, If only folk looked to the one Source, the Father of spirits, they would not wander off into useless speculation.Nick,It is only speculating to those without understanding. Those who understand, well…understand and there is no more speculating. When someone is still speculating, they are still…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 09 2010,22:48)If the doctrine of the Trinity progressed from a Binity, can we look forward to a Quadinity?t8,Unity will do and fits the Biblical concept of the oneness of two or more. No need to limit God with number prefixes of bi, tri, quad, etc.You have a unity of more than one right under your roof…you and your wife…the…[Read more]

Nick,You don't understand the unity of more than one, you don't understand two relatives with the same name. Jehovah was sent by the Jehovah of hosts. Zech 2. Jesus was the Jehovah that was sent. The Jehovah of hosts is His Father that sent His Son, Jehovah. Two different Jehovahs united as one. Not one being but one in whatever way they…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I'm not confused…many aren't. There is a reason that you are confused. Truth sets you free. Truth makes it simpler.Gen 1:26 Let US make man in OUR image.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2010,20:06)Quote (Lightenup @ June 09 2010,15:11)Hi Mike,I just wanted to make sure you saw these words of Ignatius:But our Physician is the Only true God, the unbegotten and unapproachable, the Lord of all, the Father and Begetter of the only-begotten Son. We have also as a Physician the Lord our God, Jesus the Christ,…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,19:07)Hi WJ, this is really the last thing I have to say here (on this thread) because I cant be bothered with these debates, but just to clear up this matter on the Saint Ignatius..I cheaked it and your rightAuthentic letters:To the Ephesians To the Magnesians Letter to the Trallians To the Romans To the…[Read more]

Nick,Since when does a son become the father just because the father gives the son his (the father's) name? You question shows that you do not get the idea of two relatives with the same name. Jesus was called Jehovah in the OT long before he was made flesh and baptized. Zech 2Jehovah is Lord!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2010,00:16)Hi LU, No Jesus told the Jews THE FATHER was the one they called God Was he mistaken or are you?Nick,And it was the Father that made His Son both Christ and Jehovah. The Father gave His Son His own name.Jehovah is Lord! Zech 2