Nick,That's true Nick, but we have a different opinion as to when that Spirit of Christ took on flesh.

Thanks for a glimpse of you SF! You're a neat guy and I look forward to watching you learn and contribute as at you grow in your faith and post on HN.Tell us more, like about your current schooling and your goals for a career, etc. How about what type of church you attend, your family, etc. if you feel led that is…no pressure!Be cool

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,20:57)Quote (Lightenup @ June 14 2010,10:26)Mike,Do you see in Zech that Jehovah is saying that He was valued at 30 pieces of silver?Matt 27:9-109 Then that which was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “AND THEY TOOK THE THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER, THE PRICE OF THE ONE WHOSE PRICE HAD BEEN SET by the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 13 2010,18:39)Hi LU, You speak of the Spirit of Christ?Not exactly Nick,The Spirit of Christ isn't mentioned in the context but I see that Jehovah is mentioned as saying that they thought He was worth 30 pieces of silver.

Mike,Do you see in Zech that Jehovah is saying that He was valued at 30 pieces of silver?Matt 27:9-109 Then that which was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “AND THEY TOOK THE THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER, THE PRICE OF THE ONE WHOSE PRICE HAD BEEN SET by the sons of Israel; 10 AND THEY GAVE THEM FOR THE POTTER'S FIELD, AS THE LORD…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,14:59)Quote (Lightenup @ June 14 2010,06:13)Well, Mike, your 'friend' will be your bridegroom…you ought to realize that the 'friend' is a better 'friend' than you realize. C'mon Mike, Jesus is your mighty what?Hi Kathi,You act as if we are discussing a different Jesus.  It is the same Jesus.  It's just to me, h…[Read more]

Well, Mike, your 'friend' will be your bridegroom…you ought to realize that the 'friend' is a better 'friend' than you realize. C'mon Mike, Jesus is your mighty what?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2010,22:14)Quote (Lightenup @ June 13 2010,13:54)Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2010,21:52)Mike,Quote For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed . (III).Whose God was Jesus Christ according to Ignatius?  He called Him “Our God.”  You say He is no ones god, much like the angels, i…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 13 2010,09:15)TO ALL:There is a point that I have been wanting to make so I will make it now. Mikeboll has tried to prove from fragment quotes that Eusebuis believed that Jesus had a beginning. These fragments are inadmissable because in the end Eusebius submitted to and signed the Nicean creed which denied that Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,Is the Father in you? Is it by His spirit that He is in you? Who sent Him? I already told you. John 15:2626 “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me, NASU Or do you think the Spirit of Truth is a third person?

Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2010,21:52)Mike,Quote For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed . (III).Whose God was Jesus Christ according to Ignatius?  He called Him “Our God.”  You say He is no ones god, much like the angels, isn't that right?Mike,Doesn't this from Ignatius kinda bite YOU in the but?

Mike,Quote For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed . (III).Whose God was Jesus Christ according to Ignatius? He called Him “Our God.” You say He is no ones god, much like the angels, isn't that right?

Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,19:07)Hi WJ, this is really the last thing I have to say here (on this thread) because I cant be bothered with these debates, but just to clear up this matter on the Saint Ignatius..I cheaked it and your rightAuthentic letters:To the Ephesians To the Magnesians Letter to the Trallians To the Romans To the…[Read more]

Mike,Didn't Ignatius write that He was begotten before the ages though?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2010,21:35)Quote (Lightenup @ June 13 2010,13:30)When I find one Jehovah sending the other, you will say that it is the first person, third person who are both the same or you will claim that it is really an angel.Hi Kathi,So you disagree with my post of Zec 2?  Why?  Why would God Almighty ever be SENT by anyone?  …[Read more]

Nick,God could procreate whatever He needed, so no He was not helpless.What do you mean that Ignatius has no proven heritage?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2010,21:16)Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2010,11:42)Hi Mike,Thanks for your view.  I hope I have you questioning your Jehovah is always the Father theory, anyway.  Two persons called 'Jehovah' is making more and more sense to me.  In fact, I think that Jehovah in the OT is the Son in more instances than realized.  I kno…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2010,21:36)Hi LU, God gave His name as I AM WHO AM. Was it a chorus of voices or should it have been WE ARE WHO ARE?Nick,They both are who they are. Sometimes they are quoted as speaking amongst themselves and we see things like Gen 1:26-27. Then when speaking to the people, there is one spokesperson.Gen 1:26-2726…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 12 2010,15:18)Kathi said:Quote Roo,Since when is power begotten?Kathi,Isn't the word of the apostles good enough for ya?32And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, 33God hath FULFILLED the same unto us their children, in that HE RAISED UP JESUS AGAIN; as it is also WRITTE…[Read more]

Mike,Better