Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,13:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,11:54)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,01:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,23:24)So, I say the only begotten Son of God was begotten before the ages and the Son of Man was born in the world, during the ages.KathiLOL, you agree with one point of the creed and pull…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,01:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2010,00:16)Gene,If you read the word 'God' here and think 'unbegotten God' it makes perfect sense.Isa 43:10….> Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant, whim I have chosen: that you may know and Believe me, and understand the (I) am he: before me there was…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2010,05:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2010,15:19)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2010,10:11)KangarooJack, We all have day's like that, my problem is I'm on the other side of the world than most people, so I miss out on all the conversations and only catch up later, when everyones gone. I think Mike need's some time out.You know…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,09:50)Mike said:Quote It would seem strange for God to say there were no other gods at all, and then mention many gods througout scripture.Poor Mike! He just don't get it! The scriptures are replete with statements inwhich God said that the gods exist in the people's own imaginations. In other words, their…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,01:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,23:24)So, I say the only begotten Son of God was begotten before the ages and the Son of Man was born in the world, during the ages.KathiLOL, you agree with one point of the creed and pull it out of context to support your belief.I have already explained what “begotten…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,18:49)Keith,In another thread, you said that you totally agree with the Athanasian Creed that states this:Quote Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,18:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,09:47)Roo,I have found a benefit to bringing the understanding of the early church disciples into a disagreement that we may have here.  If I say a verse means 'abc' and you say a verse means 'xyz' then looking at the understanding of the early church might bring some…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,18:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,09:47)Roo,I have found a benefit to bringing the understanding of the early church disciples into a disagreement that we may have here.  If I say a verse means 'abc' and you say a verse means 'xyz' then looking at the understanding of the early church might bring some…[Read more]

Roo,I have found a benefit to bringing the understanding of the early church disciples into a disagreement that we may have here. If I say a verse means 'abc' and you say a verse means 'xyz' then looking at the understanding of the early church might bring some enlightenment. It has nothing to do with a feeling of losing but everything to do…[Read more]

Roo,I have found a benefit to bringing the understanding of the early church disciples into a disagreement that we may have here. If I say a verse means 'abc' and you say a verse means 'xyz' then looking at the understanding of the early church might bring some enlightenment. It has nothing to do with a feeling of losing but everything to do…[Read more]

JA,You are so sure about what God can do and about who can procreate. You would think that you were the one that designed the whole process. Procreating for God could simply mean taking an incorruptible 'seed' within Him and producing a Son of the same nature so that He can love the Son and manifest Himself to man through the Son.Many are sons…[Read more]

Mike,I can tell that you are dancing all over the boards responding to posts. I don't know where you find the time. You can just put that thought from my last post on the back burner. It's cool!btw, I don't think the King of Tyre is satan. That passage is more of an irony, imo. Basically the king is full of himself. Anyway, don't get too…[Read more]

Mike,I can tell that you are dancing all over the boards responding to posts. I don't know where you find the time. You can just put that thought from my last post on the back burner. It's cool!btw, I don't think the King of Tyre is satan. That passage is more of an irony, imo. Basically the king is full of himself. Anyway, don't get too…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,23:41)Hi David,How about this question…what is the light that He had begotten in Gen 1:3.  Have you heard the expression, “Light of Light' before?  The Father is the Light and the Son is the Light OF Light as in Light FROM Light.  One was first (the Father) and then beget the other (the Son).You asked “When wi…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Do you think that when you pour your wisdom into you own son and then him putting that wisdom to use, is a poetical type of birth and then establishment of your wisdom? Because the wisdom that is within you comes out of you when you pour it into others. Maybe Prov 8 is more about the wisdom of God when poured forth in the Son and then…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Do you think that when you pour your wisdom into you own son and then him putting that wisdom to use, is a poetical type of birth and then establishment of your wisdom? Because the wisdom that is within you comes out of you when you pour it into others. Maybe Prov 8 is more about the wisdom of God when poured forth in the Son and then…[Read more]

An unbegotten God cannot be matched by a begotten God (except in nature) or a created/made god. That is why Jesus says that His Father is His God. imo. An unbegotten God cannot be made, begotten or created, it is impossible.

An unbegotten God cannot be matched by a begotten God (except in nature) or a created/made god. That is why Jesus says that His Father is His God. imo. An unbegotten God cannot be made, begotten or created, it is impossible.

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,06:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:43)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD,…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,06:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:43)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD,…[Read more]