Hi Mike,I would like to point out that when Paul calls Isaac the only begotten of Abraham he is talking about the only begotten that the promise was given about.Heb 11:17-1817 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises was offering up his only begotten son; 18 it was he to whom it was said, “IN…[Read more]

God begat God is not an untruth David. Obviously they are not the same person. There is only one unbegotten God and only one begotten God. In the beginning the word was with God (the unbegotten God) and the word was God (the begotten God)

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 17 2010,07:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,19:53)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 16 2010,18:03)Hi Keith (and maybe Kathi)YOU said:So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Ghost almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties, but one Almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,01:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,00:57)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,00:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,23:46)Interesting quote from Ignatius, the disciple of John who wrote the phrase “only begotten Son:'Quote For the Son of God, who was begotten before time began, and established all…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,01:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 17 2010,00:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,16:24)KathiIsn't that what you are doing, is supporting something that is not in scripture?WJSorry to butt in again, but what Kathi and I have done is show you the scripture, show you the definitons of the words, show you how…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,01:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,00:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,19:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,17:23)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,16:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,15:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,11:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,18:49)Keith,In another…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 17 2010,00:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,15:46)Interesting quote from Ignatius, the disciple of John who wrote the phrase “only begotten Son:'Quote For the Son of God, who was begotten before time began, and established all things according to the will of the Father, He was conceived in the womb of Mary, according to…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,00:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,23:46)Interesting quote from Ignatius, the disciple of John who wrote the phrase “only begotten Son:'Quote For the Son of God, who was begotten before time began, and established all things according to the will of the Father, He was conceived in the womb of Mary, accordi…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2010,00:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,19:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,17:23)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,16:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,15:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,11:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,18:49)Keith,In another thread, you said that you totally agree with…[Read more]

Here is an interesting quote from Ignatius, a disciple of John who wrote John 1:1:Quote It is better for a man to be silent and be , than to talk and not to be one. “The kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.” Men “believe with the heart, and confess with the mouth,” the one “unto righteousness,” the other “unto salvation.” It is good to…[Read more]

Interesting quote from Ignatius, the disciple of John who wrote the phrase “only begotten Son:'Quote For the Son of God, who was begotten before time began, and established all things according to the will of the Father, He was conceived in the womb of Mary, according to the appointment of God, of the seed of David, and by the Holy Ghost. For…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,21:47)Hi Mike:What Greek manuscripts have “only begotten god” at John 1:18?  The Greek intelinear that I have looked has the Greek “huios”, and YLT has it Son also.  This would also be consistent with the rest of the scriptures such as John 3:16, & Matthew 16 for example.There is no “begotten god”.Love in C…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,20:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,11:56)Roo,Maybe you should come up with a different term than calling satan a 'usurper god.'Satan is the only 'god' that has actual being. All other gods are 'so called' gods (Paul) and exist only in men's imaginations. God did not create satan a god. Neither did God appoint…[Read more]

Roo,Maybe you should come up with a different term than calling satan a 'usurper god.'

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 16 2010,18:03)Hi Keith (and maybe Kathi)YOU said:So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Ghost almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties, but one Almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. **AND YET THEY ARE NOT THREE GODS, BUT ONE GOD**.So please tell me how…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,17:23)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,16:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,15:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,11:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,18:49)Keith,In another thread, you said that you totally agree with the Athanasian Creed that states this:Quote Furthermore it is necessary to…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,16:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,08:41)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,15:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,03:57)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,09:50)Mike said:Quote It would seem strange for God to say there were no other gods at all, and then mention many gods througout scripture.Poor Mike! He…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 16 2010,16:09)Satan is running rife in this forum.Dbf and Mikebolle,You have both been mislead by the spirit of dillusion.You have completely misinterpreted what I wrote.And dbf, i didn't respond to eerything you wrote, ha! That is your expectation. You cannot order me to respond to you. I write things and no one responds,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 16 2010,15:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2010,11:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2010,18:49)Keith,In another thread, you said that you totally agree with the Athanasian Creed that states this:Quote Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,15:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2010,03:57)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 16 2010,09:50)Mike said:Quote It would seem strange for God to say there were no other gods at all, and then mention many gods througout scripture.Poor Mike! He just don't get it! The scriptures are replete with statements inwhich God said…[Read more]