Mike,

Heb 1 says that it was through the Son that the Father created the world. The Father gave the vision, the Son carried out the vision to reality. No wonder the Father gives the Son the credit of bringing the creation into reality. One did not do that without the other.

Also regarding this, “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: T…[Read more]

Mike,

Hebrews 1 is a great companion to John 1. Hebrews 1 solidifies that it was the Son (not a plan) that was in the beginning and he was with God, his Father. As the exact representation of the Father’s eternal nature, the Son is also God according to essence. The Father is the head of the Son as should be obvious. Because he is a son of the…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You have written soooo much and I know that took a lot of time and so I appreciate your effort. However most of your verses that you understand speaking about earthly messengers or earthly holy ones are translated elsewhere as celestial angels and meant as celestial holy ones, so I can see why you are confused and think that my view of…[Read more]

@Mikeboll64

Mike, you asked me this:

So, the author of Hebrews tells us who created the world, and identifies Jesus as someone other than that One, right? And in the prayer in Acts 4, the Apostles tell us who created the world, and identify Jesus as someone other than that One, right?  And what does Jesus himself say about it?

Mark 13:19…

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The body knows nothing when dead, but the spirit of the man is alive and with the LORD. The body will be resurrected into a glorified body in the future.

Absent from the body, present with the LORD.

Hi Jodi,

I appreciate your time and passion but geez, that’s a lot of rabbit trails to discuss. You have demonstrated that earthly men can be associated with wind and fire. So can celestial angels. The question is which one is the Son far superior than and which one was He made lower than in regards to Heb 1:4 and 2:7, the earthly messengers or…[Read more]

Here Gene,

You’d like to watch this (you can skip to the 35 minute mark if you are short on time):

Jodi,

While you are waiting for my response, you might find this lady interesting. She has quite the intimate relationship with God and is taken to heaven quite often in order to reveal heaven to anyone eager to know more. You can skip to about the middle and listen to the second half if you don’t have a lot of time. Enjoy!

https://fb.watch/4TlVR-dZ3-/

Hi Jodi,

Are you about done, anything else to add before I look at all of these last five posts?

Mike,

You asked: So at this point, can you and I agree that the writer is talking about one particular god, and the prophets/son through whom this particular god did certain things?

Yes, God the Father of Jesus who was not alone creating the world, specifically.

Gene,

3For He (the Son, Jesus Christ) has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house.

The verse says it clearly that Jesus built the house that refers to the believers as the house. Moses was a member IN God’s house, Jesus was the Son over His own house of many members.…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

I agree that the word translated as “angels” can be translated “messengers.” That is nothing new to me. I also agree that the word translated as “angels” referred to John the Baptist as a messenger and other earthly men as messengers, that is also nothing new to me. What I vehemently disagree with you on is that you apply the word…[Read more]

Gene,

Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:

1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the…[Read more]

@Admin

When I make a post from my phone, submit it, then edit it, and submit it after it is edited,  I can see it in my personal activities but it disappears from the thread. I will repost it in the next post. This has happened before.

Gene,

Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:

1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the…

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@DannyDabbs

Hi Danny, if you are still reading here, I have prepared for you a fuller picture than what you have been given by Jodi. May God be with you on your search…I’ve been there. God is good!

In the beginning was the Word (a), the Image of the invisible God-the Father YHVH -(b). The Word was with the invisible God and was God (a), the…

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Hi Danny,

You asked: Can we honestly say that a God/Man was like one of us in every way? Hebrews 2:17

Yes we can honestly say that a the One who was equal to God, laid down His majestic splendor and became man like us in every way that allowed Him to suffer and be tempted and die. That is what the context says in Hebrews 2. Read it here:

5For He…

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