Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 12 2010,06:39)Regarding the title of this thread,From what I remember the Early Church followed the Saterday Sabbath, but also had Sunday. One example;St. Justin MartyrThe First Apology Chapter 67. Weekly worship of the Christianshttp://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htmAnd we afterwards continually remind each other of…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 12 2010,03:16)Kathi, TheodorJ,As regarding the dead.In those times it was believed that once a person was dead in the body, the flesh, they were dead forever.The concept of the dead rising to an everlasting life was inconceivable.Persons could be revived from the dead, but still died later.Was it Elijah who raised up the…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 12 2010,06:00)Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 12 2010,19:16)Kathi, TheodorJ,As regarding the dead.In those times it was believed that once a person was dead in the body, the flesh, they were dead forever.The concept of the dead rising to an everlasting life was inconceivable.Persons could be revived from the dead, but still died…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 11 2010,01:34)Kathi….. The Eternal said..in answer to Moses….”Iam that Iam”and that he is the same God that Abraham,Isaac and Jacob worshipped….They are dead,Iam reasonably sure they will be among the 144000 with an office commanding much authority in Gods kingdom/government here on earth…Hi Ted,I don't believe that…[Read more]

Shimmer,No problem…I am kinda busy myself. We just bought a new puppy for my Mom and I have a week to train her before I give my Mom her new puppy. So far so good

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 08 2010,12:03)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 09 2010,01:28)For any and all born again spirit filled sons of God, lets hear what the spirit says of the Sabbath Day of the Lord.At the last supper Jesus said…..that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses, in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 08 2010,08:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2010,13:37)Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 07 2010,09:28)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2010,16:20)kathiwitch one,we have similar believes today ,why is it you want to go were there is no Godly believes but believes of men??all those so called fathers of the early church were apostates,they…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 08 2010,18:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2010,13:47)Pierre,What do you think the early trinity was?  Yes, I know what holy means.KathiChristians were persecuted, tortured, and killed, by the Romans, because, they would not worship, and sacrifice to the Emperor.In 312 AD, Constantine stopped the persecution of Christians.In 321…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 08 2010,15:34)http://www.biblestudytools.com/history/early-church-fathers/ante-nicene/vol-1-apostolic-with-justin-martyr-irenaeus/mathetes/epistle-of-mathetes-to-diognetus.htmlThe Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus Aprox 130 ADChapter VII.-The Manifestation of Christ. “For, as I said, this was no mere earthly invention which…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 07 2010,16:05)Kathi, If you want to search the early writtings IMO it's best to only stay with the EARLIEST writings, before they started changing their views.So that's volume one.http://www.biblestudytools.com/history….renaeusI'll see what I can find in some of those. I'll go through Barnabas and Clement which were the…[Read more]

Pierre,What do you think the early trinity was? Yes, I know what holy means.

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 07 2010,09:28)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2010,16:20)kathiwitch one,we have similar believes today ,why is it you want to go were there is no Godly believes but believes of men??all those so called fathers of the early church were apostates,they sold there faith for 30 coins.many of the true Christians were put to dead for…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 07 2010,07:59)Kathi, why do you put value how the fist Fathers worshiped?  We have the Bible to show us who we should or should not worship……. I think that you put  more value on those Fathers then the Bible, which is God's Word……Why???Almighty God is above all, and it is Him we all should Worship.Psa 82:1 ¶ ] God st…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2010,01:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2010,23:38)Pierre,I do not know why you say such things.  There were many writings from those who followed God and His Son.  Some of them were put to death after they had written down many things that we can read today.  Justin, the Martyr who gave the quote above this post was ma…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 06 2010,19:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 06 2010,12:59)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 03 2010,07:07)Kathi!  The nature of God, what is He? Is He not divine? Is He not immortal?? He is Spirit and always was Spirit.  Since He is divine He could never come and die for us.  While even tho Jesus was a Spirit being, He was not divine.  But now He…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 06 2010,10:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 06 2010,13:13)Hi Ted,Quote Greetings Kathi…… Your question is an age old one that I can only answer with, as of now, Iam not sure to what extent we will share,but ,Iam sure that that threre is only one as the eternal….I would think that there is nothing greater than Love and to…[Read more]

Pierre,I do not know why you say such things. There were many writings from those who followed God and His Son. Some of them were put to death after they had written down many things that we can read today. Justin, the Martyr who gave the quote above this post was martyred for his faith in God and His Christ and the Spirit. We have many of his…[Read more]

Justin, the Martyr:67. After these we constantly remind each other of these things. Those who have more come to the aid of those who lack, and we are constantly together. Over all that we receive we bless the Maker of all things through his Son Jesus Christ and through the Holy Spirit.821821Not merely a general statement, but a reference to the…[Read more]

Athenagoras, the AthenianThe Trinity10. I have sufficiently shown that we are not atheists since we acknowledge one God, who is uncreated, eternal, invisible, impassible, incomprehensible, illimitable. He is grasped only by mind and intelligence, and surrounded by light, beauty, spirit, and indescribable power. By him the universe was created…[Read more]

Hi Ted,Quote Greetings Kathi…… Your question is an age old one that I can only answer with, as of now, Iam not sure to what extent we will share,but ,Iam sure that that threre is only one as the eternal….I would think that there is nothing greater than Love and to have a nature that is Love would be the sum total of what you have described…[Read more]