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Lightenup replied to the topic Genesis 1, was god himself the us and our in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Pierre,I will put who I think the pronouns refer to in parenthesis:Mal 3:1-33 “Behold, I (the Father) am going to send My (the Father's) messenger, and he (John the Baptist) will clear the way before Me (the Father). And the Lord (Jesus/Messiah), whom you seek, will suddenly come to His (Jesus/Messiah) temple; and the messenger of the covenant…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Genesis 1, was god himself the us and our in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Pierre,There are two different messengers in that passage. The messenger that will prepare the way of the Lord is John the Baptist, the messenger of the new covenant is Christ. God's temple is also Christ's temple. The glory of God fills the temple and the Son is the radiance of that glory.
Lightenup replied to the topic Saturday or sunday worship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 6 months ago
Hi Pierre,If you read on the 'Christmas' topic, we were discussing such things as the sabbath and the conception of Jesus. I bumped a post that I made here that was related to that.
Lightenup replied to the topic Saturday or sunday worship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 6 months ago
Hi Irene,Good verses about the 'body' but doesn't say about the 'spirit' of the person.
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2010,23:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 31 2010,22:40)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2010,22:30)Kathiyou say;;Hi Laurel,I agree with you about Christ being conceived during Hanukah which can fall on Dec. 25th, btw.====================================================could you tell me for sure that God made it this way or is that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2010,23:41)Kathithis is your say;You might read my post again (first one on this page) and see that Christians haven't changed the sabbath day from the seventh day of the week, God changed the sabbath day to the day you believe in Christ and enter into His rest, NOT to the Sun's day. It is no longer a weekly day.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Saturday or sunday worship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 11 2010,00:28)Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 08 2010,12:03)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 09 2010,01:28)For any and all born again spirit filled sons of God, lets hear what the spirit says of the Sabbath Day of the Lord.At the last supper Jesus said…..that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses, in the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Genesis 1, was god himself the us and our in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Pierre,Matt 11:9-119 “But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and one who is more than a prophet. 10 “This is the one about whom it is written, 'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER AHEAD OF YOU, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.' 11 “Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2010,22:30)Kathiyou say;;Hi Laurel,I agree with you about Christ being conceived during Hanukah which can fall on Dec. 25th, btw.====================================================could you tell me for sure that God made it this way or is that another illusion in the will of expectation of the unknown??now then is it…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Laurel,you said:Quote Your words about old creation and new creation are “new to me” and i have read Scripture and loved Scripture for many years, never having read there about a new creation or anywhere where the Sabbath memorial, and sign of His everlasting covenant was ever changed to the SUN's day which is the day of pagan worship to their…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Laurel,Here are some verses that speak of believers in Christ as a new creation/creature. The new creation/creature replaces the old creation/creature which we are to lay aside and conform to the ways of the new creation/creature.Gal 6:15-1615 For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. 16 And those who will walk…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Genesis 1, was god himself the us and our in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Pierre,It is difficult to see the verse numbers because of the numbered pronouns in the above post.
Lightenup replied to the topic Genesis 1, was god himself the us and our in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 29 2010,23:37)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2010,21:46)MikeMal 3:1-33 “Behold, 1. I am going to send 2. My messenger, and he will clear the way before 3. Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to 4. His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, 5. He is coming,” says the Lord…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 30 2010,22:02)He was NOT born in a cave either! Religion and all the books written by men make me sick. Only Scripture is the trustworthy inspired word of the All Mighty and anything else is a lie.Laurel,A cave can be a barn for livestock or abode for people. I don't know how you can be so certain to say that it wasn't a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 30 2010,21:27)ALL of the Pagan man-made mighty ones were born on the winter solstice (birth of the sun). How did this happen? They are all the same person whom the whole world worshipped in Babylon before the languages were changed! Tammuz, Zeus, Mithra, were all born on Dec. 25th! and for anyone who may still be decieved,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 30 2010,10:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 25 2010,19:24)Keith,Thanks! I got the book for Christmas. What part contradicts the Matthew account?KathiThe link you gave says this…”But the version of the Wise Men's story in this text is strikingly different than the traditional one in the Bible, told in 12 verses in the G…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Georg,From what I read, choosing the 25th of December was motivated out of reaching out to the pagan world and giving them a real reason to celebrate a birth of a true Son of God. That sounds like good intentions to me. Georg, surely you can see that if Christ was born in September as many say, His conception was at the end of December during…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
No Pierre, I am not pagan. I celebrate Christmas in a Christian way, not a pagan way.
Lightenup replied to the topic Was christ born on december 25 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Irene,Christians are celebrating His birth, His conception, and the story surrounding it with the shepherds, the angel's announcement, and the Magi traveling from afar to come to worship Him and that all didn't happen on one day. You are right that some of the Christmas hymns say that Jesus was born 'today' and refer to Dec. 25th and that is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Genesis 1, was god himself the us and our in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago
Pierre, you want candy…that's made me smile.We differ on who is at #4 but we are very, very close and that's good.
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