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    Lightenup replied to the topic Moderators in the forum View Points 15 years, 6 months ago

    I would like to see Theodore on the list also, he has experience with boardroom power tactics…and I would have liked to vote for more than one. I see many that might do well.Maybe there should be a three month trial period for anyone considering the position with the freedom of not continuing and/or maybe a rotation where you agree to moderate…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Moderators in the forum View Points 15 years, 6 months ago

    Karmarie,Thanks for your recommendation. I think we both have moderating experience with raising 10 kids between us, lol. We should be able to run a small company after that. I want to be open to what the Lord has for me and I know t8 needs help. I think that the men are more responsive to men keeping them in line. I do better with children…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 05 2011,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,10:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father” its not his eteranl identity nor part…[Read more]

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    Hi Istari,I was reading some of your responses from our conversation last night and one thing that I would like to say is that it is ok to disagree. I have presented the best word picture that I have ever had on the subject. You mentioned that I must not try to explain spiritual things in earthly ways and I also disagree with that. Jesus did it…[Read more]

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    Goodnight for now Istari. It's been nice discussing with you. Something else to think about…to be the exact representation of God's nature, one would have to have an always existent nature.Catch ya later!

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    Istari,There is no unbegotten God but Him, the Father. He begat the Son that always existed within Him sometime before creation and the Firstborn created all things in heaven and on earth.John 3:16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.17″For God did…[Read more]

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    Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,00:16)Kathi,no, the SON COULD NOT have ALWAYS EXISTED – why are you saying this….Where do you get any evidence to say a SON EXIST BEFORE BEING CREATED as a SON….this is PURELY ILLOGICAL.Why would a Son exist – then he would not be a SON He would be a GOD…see you turn logic against itself.If the Son ALWAYS EXISTED…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father” its not his eteranl identity nor part of it until that role was fulfilled.Its like haveing scuba gear to potentialy go…[Read more]

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    Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,23:56)Kathi – NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…(Ah, so that's why your were trying to FORCE the issue of the MOTHER – ah, I see, nice try – NO, Kathi, it doesn't work…)Istari,you said:NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…I agree but if the Son always existed before being…[Read more]

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    Karmarie,Absolutely! :;):

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    Mike,No one else is seated on the “Father's throne” but the Father and the Son, so that would have been a better question from me.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the Father's throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?

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    Karmarie is right…nice and God given. Worthwhile to pursue!Mike's last comment shows that he is trying…and so does Istari's last comment.

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    Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.

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    Thanks Kerwin, I'm sure.

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2011,22:04)Istari,I agree with you that the trinity doctrine seems to indicate a triune God encompassing the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  That has not set well with me either.In my recent post to you, I didn't mean to indicate that the Son was a 'thought' of the Father's before He was begotten.  I will give y…[Read more]

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    Istari,Thanks.God is not a man or a woman but is a Father who begat. Your other questions you ask need to be reconsidered now that you have conceded the point.

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    Istari,My word picture stands true according to:A mother is a woman who has conceived, given birth to, or raised a child in the role of a parent.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotherLuke 1:41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was (AX)filled with the Holy Spirit. 42And she cried out with a loud voice and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,22:35)No Kathi,The WOMAN is NOT a MOTHER until she 'drops' the Child.The woman is a 'Potential Mother' – said as “To be WITH CHILD”. It is SENTIMENT that makes us say “She is a Mother”…we are not dealing with human SENTIMENT here…The Man is not a Father until the child is born – See, we say “How is the…[Read more]

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    Irene,Any word about the cat scan?Happyman, I am thankful that the Bishop Seeley had a peaceful passing. That is pretty neat to see an angel ready to take you home and very comforting to those left behind.

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    Istari,I agree with you that the trinity doctrine seems to indicate a triune God encompassing the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That has not set well with me either.In my recent post to you, I didn't mean to indicate that the Son was a 'thought' of the Father's before He was begotten. I will give you a word picture…when you see a woman…[Read more]

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