The body knows nothing when dead, but the spirit of the man is alive and with the LORD. The body will be resurrected into a glorified body in the future.

Absent from the body, present with the LORD.

Hi Jodi,

I appreciate your time and passion but geez, that’s a lot of rabbit trails to discuss. You have demonstrated that earthly men can be associated with wind and fire. So can celestial angels. The question is which one is the Son far superior than and which one was He made lower than in regards to Heb 1:4 and 2:7, the earthly messengers or…[Read more]

Here Gene,

You’d like to watch this (you can skip to the 35 minute mark if you are short on time):

Jodi,

While you are waiting for my response, you might find this lady interesting. She has quite the intimate relationship with God and is taken to heaven quite often in order to reveal heaven to anyone eager to know more. You can skip to about the middle and listen to the second half if you don’t have a lot of time. Enjoy!

https://fb.watch/4TlVR-dZ3-/

Hi Jodi,

Are you about done, anything else to add before I look at all of these last five posts?

Mike,

You asked: So at this point, can you and I agree that the writer is talking about one particular god, and the prophets/son through whom this particular god did certain things?

Yes, God the Father of Jesus who was not alone creating the world, specifically.

Gene,

3For He (the Son, Jesus Christ) has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house.

The verse says it clearly that Jesus built the house that refers to the believers as the house. Moses was a member IN God’s house, Jesus was the Son over His own house of many members.…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

I agree that the word translated as “angels” can be translated “messengers.” That is nothing new to me. I also agree that the word translated as “angels” referred to John the Baptist as a messenger and other earthly men as messengers, that is also nothing new to me. What I vehemently disagree with you on is that you apply the word…[Read more]

Gene,

Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:

1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the…[Read more]

@Admin

When I make a post from my phone, submit it, then edit it, and submit it after it is edited,  I can see it in my personal activities but it disappears from the thread. I will repost it in the next post. This has happened before.

Gene,

Read here how Moses and Jesus are different:

1Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession: Jesus; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the…

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@DannyDabbs

Hi Danny, if you are still reading here, I have prepared for you a fuller picture than what you have been given by Jodi. May God be with you on your search…I’ve been there. God is good!

In the beginning was the Word (a), the Image of the invisible God-the Father YHVH -(b). The Word was with the invisible God and was God (a), the…

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Hi Danny,

You asked: Can we honestly say that a God/Man was like one of us in every way? Hebrews 2:17

Yes we can honestly say that a the One who was equal to God, laid down His majestic splendor and became man like us in every way that allowed Him to suffer and be tempted and die. That is what the context says in Hebrews 2. Read it here:

5For He…

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Jodi,

You said: YLT SUPPORTS MY VIEW, a word that means messenger should be translated as messenger!

Your view says that Heb 1 is about earthly messengers, not celestial messengers. YLT calls celestial angels “messengers”. For instance, see here throughout this passage, the angel is called a messenger in the YLT translation:

11And there appeared…

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@mikeboll64

You said: The one through whom God created the world was not God.

Yes He was. He just wasn’t God the Father.

Look at verse 4…

…having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.

Do you really imagine that there was a time when God became superior to the angels by inheriting a bet…

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DannyDabbs

You said to Jodi and Gene: Maybe you are right that Jesus started His life as a human being.
Born of the Holy Spirit from Mary.

All men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. That alone should tell you that Jesus, who had no sin, was not part of the “all men.” Jesus took on the sins of the whole world. If Jesus was just a man…[Read more]

Jodi,

You said:

Applying the surrounding context to a word as well as the truth given from all other scriptures, is how you determine the correct meaning of a word that holds multiple meanings.

Agree, and that is why the word should be translated as “angels.”