Karmarie,She was talking about what she 'heard' not about what she 'said' to anyone. She is the one that said she 'heard.' So, someone had to tell her in order for her to have 'heard.' The link was about the dangers of gossip, both speaking it and listening to it and judging someone by it. I never said that she spoke the gossip nor did I say…[Read more]

Jack,Quote Shouldn't Jesus be the Firstborn in the same way that He is the Heir…by appointment?No, not necessarily.There is your answer.Kathi

Keith,The Father is naturally of His own being, the Son is of the Father's being, and the Spirit is of the Father's being also. That is consubstantiality.Stick with this one thing till we nail this down, ok.Kathi

Keith,Consubstantiality is a term used in Latin Christian christology, coined by Tertullian in Against Hermogenes 44, used to translate the Greek term homoousios. “Consubstantiality” describes the relationship among the Divine persons of the Christian Trinity and connotes that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are “of one being”…[Read more]

Keith,Quote Neither do they believe the Father and Son are 2 gods or beings.Do you believe in God the Father Almighty?Do you believe in God the Son Almighty?Kathi

Hi Keith and Jack,I have made a topic that is about that here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….73;st=0I have come to understand what some mean by that terms eternal generation and eternally begotten. The understanding differs from person to person.This is what I used to think it meant:The Son was always begotten and co-existed with the Father…[Read more]

Jack, Was 'the Word' from the first person, second person, or third person? What do you think?Also, what do you think he was appointed heir of in Heb. 1?The fallible father that you refer to is much more knowledgeable than I am and he confirms generally what I understand. You ought to read more of his…[Read more]

Well, now that the link is up there correctly three times, maybe it will work like a charm

Here it is Keith,I went back and fixed it.http://www.gotquestions.org/gossip-Bible.htmlThanks!Kathi

Hi Istari,I know that we do not understand the same way. Perhaps you might enjoy reading this:http://www.reformedreader.org/rbb/gill/eternalsonshipofchrist.htmAs you can see, this disagreement has been going on for centuries. I am certainly not alone in my general understanding.BTW, read John Gill's writings for some help with your…[Read more]

Thanks Keith and William! I agree.

Princess,Have no fear, no one is being run off the board by me,  just asking for accountability, that's all.  I did not instigate this.You said:Quote LU you do have a tendency to do such things, this is not the first time I have heard of this. how you have hurt another person in such a way. Really, have I ever hurt you in anyway, if so how?  If yo…[Read more]

Dennison,

Thanks Dennison-son,I know that you would like the drama, not me Kathi

Hi William and all,I am the one that emailed her in response to a PM that she sent me in regards to this post below and my response to it. And I never said that she shouldn't be here one way or another. I don't know if you read one of her very first posts but it was a railing judgement of many of us, myself included. I will quote it here for…[Read more]

Thanks Mike!When I was shown the truth of the literal Son from eternity, I didn't have to dissect scriptures.  It really wasn't hard once I opened my heart to the possibility, truly opened my heart, and putting my past acceptance of a doctrine on the altar, then the scales figuratively fell from my eyes and I began to see that the Son was God…[Read more]

Jack,I answered you there.Kathi

Istari,I never used the words 'incubated inside God' did I? Let these words reflect my thoughts:He was begotten of the Father in a manner inconceivable and inexpressible by men, before any creatures were in being.I made a comparison to a human pregnancy in the past because that is the closest example of what I was thinking, however I do not know…[Read more]

Thanks Keith, I'm moving on…Kathi

Sorry Jack,I didn't understand you…Can we move on?