Istari,Only non-created beings existed before creation. Angels were not self-existing and did not exist before creation.Kathi

Jesus is THE gate.Jesus is THE vine.Jesus is THE shepherd.And I can prove it with scripture evenJesus is the Angel of GodDon't miss the message here.Does Jesus have a gate nature?Does Jesus have the nature of a vine?Does Jesus have the nature of an angel?orDoes Jesus have the nature of a God?Whichever it is, then He is that by nature and then you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,21:03)Hi Dennison,Just wondering if you have a response to my last post on the previous page. KathiSon-Long headache

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2011,10:24)Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,09:05)I genuinely state that I cannot see what your issue is. How can I answer a question that has no point to it. I would have to either see the fallacy that you see or else 'pretend' to see it and produce dishonest answers – just to argue a case!!Okay.  I'll accept that you…[Read more]

One of you just step up and walk away…let God be your witness and get busy proclaiming His mercy and love and the reason for it. He loves each of you and all of us more than we deserve. He has shown me His loving smile this week…look for His smile to you. When you start looking up you stop putting down. Please! Kathi

Welcome LaDon,I would be happy to discuss with you. Thanks for all your thoughts. I'll try to keep my answers simple because the gospel is simple, really…and I believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God and inerrant in the original languages. There are many good translations out there and I like the NASB but I use others as well. All…[Read more]

Welcome LaDon,I would be happy to discuss with you. Thanks for all your thoughts. I'll try to keep my answers simple because the gospel is simple, really…and I believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God and inerrant in the original languages. There are many good translations out there and I like the NASB but I use others as well. All…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I'm going to make you find it and bring it up, ha.Sorry…just a little smirky

That's fine Mike. See you there.Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2011,23:04)Quote (Lightenup @ April 08 2011,21:33)Have you ever understood that the three are of one being, not are one being.  That is according to this definition.  You just take out the word 'of' and you get a completely different idea…one little word.Yeah, I've had many a conversation about that little two l…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 08 2011,10:19)Kathi said:Quote It's the Father's being that the Son is of, and each are distinct beings.Come on Kathi!Being = essenceBeing 2 The qualities or constitution of an existent thing (Webster's)Being 2 Essential nature, substance (Funk and Wagnall's)I am the same being as my father because I possess the…[Read more]

Jack,I answered one question, now I ask a question, that is what you said. Here is your question:Was 'the Word' from the first person, second person, or third person? What do you think?Thanks,Kathi

Quote (t8 @ April 08 2011,05:54)Quote (karmarie @ April 08 2011,13:39)I personally love Princess. So please all, leave her alone. Shes done nothing wrong and neither have I and neither has Sophia.It is not noble when you publicly make a judgement against people with no proof and when you hold them to account for what they said, they then play the…[Read more]

Princess,You advise a humble and loving heart…I take that to mean that you are sorry for smearing gossip that you heard. Ok, so I am just imagining that you might humble yourself. That is better than nothing. I'll go with that. Peace.

Princess and Sophia has done nothing wrong Open your eyes Karmarie.They missed a step or two with their hurtful posts.Matt 18:15-17″If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 07 2011,19:38)I think Kathi's post/PM is good and what she said is fair and true.As a moderator I do have to chastise someone for divulging a PM as they are meant to be personal, but Kathi only showed the content that she wrote which she has every right to make public and so she hasn't erred here either from what I can see.Also,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 07 2011,16:59)Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2011,16:30)Two Gods that are consubstantial.  One from the other…God from God…one being from the other.  That is what consubstantial is.It is all about context.  The two are of one nature.  It's the Father's being that the Son is of, and each are distinct beings.  On…[Read more]

Princess,What am I wrong about? You are the one that said that you 'heard' that I hurt someone. Did you bother to consider there were two sides to the matter and that maybe the person and I should work it out without you making a verdict against me from your one sided view? You didn't even bother to ask my view, you just thought that you should…[Read more]

Two Gods that are consubstantial. One from the other…God from God…one being from the other. That is what consubstantial is.It is all about context. The two are of one nature. It's the Father's being that the Son is of, and each are distinct beings. One is begotten from the other as is consistent with the church fathers and the term…[Read more]

Keith,A person is a being.The Spirit is the Spirit of the FatherThe Son is the Son.The Father is the being that the Son is from, by begettal, the Spirit is from the being of the Father also, but as an extension of the Father Himself. The Spirit is not begotten but brought forth.The Spirit is not another being, He is an extension of the Father and…[Read more]