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    Quote (Istari @ April 13 2011,15:19)Quote (Lightenup @ April 11 2011,06:52)Istari,Jesus, according to the flesh was led by the Spirit.  After He was risen, according to His flesh, He received the ok to give the Father's Spirit, together with the Spirit of the Son so that they would both dwell within the believers…by their spirit called 'the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2011,22:01)Hi Kathi,That is a good take on it.  We KNOW from scripture that all things came FROM God and THROUGH Jesus, but beyond that, we don't really have a clue as to how “hands on” Jesus really was.We only know that as the “Authority Figure”, his Father demands all the credit for all of…[Read more]

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    My dear brothers,I hate what some girls are doing to tempt you. Today I was on my facebook and on the sideline was a profile picture of a girl that took her picture in a mirror and all she was wearing was her undies. She thought she should make this her profile picture and I am appalled at this behavior. Facebook was suggesting that I make her…[Read more]

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    Regarding the idea of the Father creating through the Son and then claiming the act as creator:I found this interesting, it was in the story of Jacob, Leah and Rachel. Rachel was barren and decided to have a son THROUGH her maid whom she gave to her husband to impregnate. Rachel, after her maid gave birth, claimed the child as HER (Rachel's)…[Read more]

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    Quote (csaliba @ April 12 2011,14:33)Mike and Istari,Permit me to clear something for you.I hope!! I feel that all this talking with regards to the tenses is nonsense for the simple reason that since you are reading modern scripture you will never get the right spirtual understanding or interpretation,because modern scripture are interested more…[Read more]

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    Dennison you are keeping me busy… :p You wrote in your post above:Quote 1. What can you offer as proof to state that God has not physical correlation with Man if he wished too. The bible claims that Jesus is the Second Adam. Adam didnt die, yet God said he would. So what died? “his divine nature”2. I dont think that makes a difference. Whether…[Read more]

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    Dennison,Have you been checked for allergies? I also am having a lot of headaches, just getting over one in fact. I am suspecting the pollen causing the problem. You ought to get a check up. I hope you feel better soon.Sending motherly love, Kathi

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 11 2011,18:45)Quote (Lightenup @ April 02 2011,09:12)Another thought Dennison,You are a son and one day, you may become a father also, and then much later you may become a grandfather too.  When you are a grandfather and you go to live with your grandchildren, one person (you as the grandfather) will be living with…[Read more]

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    Dennison,Thank you, you must be feeling better. I agree with you that the OT is as important as the NT. We need to read both to get the big picture. I would think that you would agree that the prophecies were better understood after they were fulfilled, right? That is why the further we read in the chronology of the Bible, the more…[Read more]

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    A little bit of motherly advice for you Dennison-son…the young guy that will get off their back end and get themselves some medicine when they have a headache, will be your boss some day ???So, you have to make a decision now, don't you?

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    Istari,The only begotten Son of God has a distinction beyond all other sons of God. They can't all be the only begotten son, only one can, otherwise you have rewritten the definition of 'only'. That distinction implies a common nature with the Father. The Bible tells us that He is the exact representation of the nature of God. Heb. 1.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 3 months ago

    t8,Why do you believe that Jesus could empty Himself of His nature? I believe that it wasn't His nature that He emptied Himself of because I don't think that is possible for Him. He may have emptied Himself of receiving the privileges that go with divinity, like the riches of heaven, and the glory that He had with the Father, even of His memory,…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 3 months ago

    t8,Why do you believe that Jesus could empty Himself of His nature? I believe that it wasn't His nature that He emptied Himself of because I don't think that is possible for Him. He may have emptied Himself of receiving the privileges that go with divinity, like the riches of heaven, and the glory that He had with the Father, even of His memory,…[Read more]

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    Dennison-son,You can take medicine for that, ya know :p

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    Quote LU.There is a difference between being God the Son and the son of God.God the son implies that God is made up of some, including the son.The son of God implies that he is a son, and his Father is God.The latter is what scripture repeats over and over.The former is not taught outside of the Trinity Doctrine that I can see.Take your…[Read more]

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    Ok, Istari, ha…syntax is something about studying the logic of grammar structure. Well, I have never had a discussion about syntax. You can enlighten me if you would like…if you are bored today :) or you can pass me by on this, either way that's fine. I really don't know how talking about syntax is going to help me understand the truth of…[Read more]

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    Istari,Only Begotten Son of Goda name?a title?or a relationship?I say relationship. You must believe that He is the 'only' begotten Son of God. His relationship to God is that of the only one truly begotten from Him, as true of a Son as one can be. That is a big difference than merely believing that He is 'a' begotten son of God. There are…[Read more]

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    Angels are not begotten from anyone. Angels could only be begotten from other angels if it were possible. Angels are not self-existent…only God is. God begets God, God does not beget angels…He created them. Angels are not born again, only man is born again…begotten from the dead by the Son who is the giver of eternal life into the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,14:49)Mike,Even John 2:22 fastforwards to the Disciples 'Remembering what Jesus HAD SAID to them'.And 3:35 states that 'the Father HAS given ALL THINGS into his (Jesus) Hand', yet we know that it was not so until after he was risen!Following on in verse 36: 'He who BELIEVES in the Son has everlasting life; And he who…[Read more]

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    Istari,Jesus, according to the flesh was led by the Spirit. After He was risen, according to His flesh, He received the ok to give the Father's Spirit, together with the Spirit of the Son so that they would both dwell within the believers…by their spirit called 'the Comforter.'Kathi

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