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    Dennison,Thank you, you must be feeling better. I agree with you that the OT is as important as the NT. We need to read both to get the big picture. I would think that you would agree that the prophecies were better understood after they were fulfilled, right? That is why the further we read in the chronology of the Bible, the more…[Read more]

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    A little bit of motherly advice for you Dennison-son…the young guy that will get off their back end and get themselves some medicine when they have a headache, will be your boss some day ???So, you have to make a decision now, don't you?

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    Istari,The only begotten Son of God has a distinction beyond all other sons of God. They can't all be the only begotten son, only one can, otherwise you have rewritten the definition of 'only'. That distinction implies a common nature with the Father. The Bible tells us that He is the exact representation of the nature of God. Heb. 1.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 1 month ago

    t8,Why do you believe that Jesus could empty Himself of His nature? I believe that it wasn't His nature that He emptied Himself of because I don't think that is possible for Him. He may have emptied Himself of receiving the privileges that go with divinity, like the riches of heaven, and the glory that He had with the Father, even of His memory,…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 1 month ago

    t8,Why do you believe that Jesus could empty Himself of His nature? I believe that it wasn't His nature that He emptied Himself of because I don't think that is possible for Him. He may have emptied Himself of receiving the privileges that go with divinity, like the riches of heaven, and the glory that He had with the Father, even of His memory,…[Read more]

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    Dennison-son,You can take medicine for that, ya know :p

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    Quote LU.There is a difference between being God the Son and the son of God.God the son implies that God is made up of some, including the son.The son of God implies that he is a son, and his Father is God.The latter is what scripture repeats over and over.The former is not taught outside of the Trinity Doctrine that I can see.Take your…[Read more]

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    Ok, Istari, ha…syntax is something about studying the logic of grammar structure. Well, I have never had a discussion about syntax. You can enlighten me if you would like…if you are bored today :) or you can pass me by on this, either way that's fine. I really don't know how talking about syntax is going to help me understand the truth of…[Read more]

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    Istari,Only Begotten Son of Goda name?a title?or a relationship?I say relationship. You must believe that He is the 'only' begotten Son of God. His relationship to God is that of the only one truly begotten from Him, as true of a Son as one can be. That is a big difference than merely believing that He is 'a' begotten son of God. There are…[Read more]

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    Angels are not begotten from anyone. Angels could only be begotten from other angels if it were possible. Angels are not self-existent…only God is. God begets God, God does not beget angels…He created them. Angels are not born again, only man is born again…begotten from the dead by the Son who is the giver of eternal life into the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,14:49)Mike,Even John 2:22 fastforwards to the Disciples 'Remembering what Jesus HAD SAID to them'.And 3:35 states that 'the Father HAS given ALL THINGS into his (Jesus) Hand', yet we know that it was not so until after he was risen!Following on in verse 36: 'He who BELIEVES in the Son has everlasting life; And he who…[Read more]

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    Istari,Jesus, according to the flesh was led by the Spirit. After He was risen, according to His flesh, He received the ok to give the Father's Spirit, together with the Spirit of the Son so that they would both dwell within the believers…by their spirit called 'the Comforter.'Kathi

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    Istari,Only non-created beings existed before creation. Angels were not self-existing and did not exist before creation.Kathi

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    Jesus is THE gate.Jesus is THE vine.Jesus is THE shepherd.And I can prove it with scripture :)evenJesus is the Angel of GodDon't miss the message here.Does Jesus have a gate nature?Does Jesus have the nature of a vine?Does Jesus have the nature of an angel?orDoes Jesus have the nature of a God?Whichever it is, then He is that by nature and then you…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,21:03)Hi Dennison,Just wondering if you have a response to my last post on the previous page. KathiSon-Long headache :(

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2011,10:24)Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,09:05)I genuinely state that I cannot see what your issue is. How can I answer a question that has no point to it. I would have to either see the fallacy that you see or else 'pretend' to see it and produce dishonest answers – just to argue a case!!Okay.  I'll accept that you…[Read more]

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    One of you just step up and walk away…let God be your witness and get busy proclaiming His mercy and love and the reason for it. He loves each of you and all of us more than we deserve. He has shown me His loving smile this week…look for His smile to you. When you start looking up you stop putting down. Please! Kathi

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 1 month ago

    Welcome LaDon,I would be happy to discuss with you. Thanks for all your thoughts. I'll try to keep my answers simple because the gospel is simple, really…and I believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God and inerrant in the original languages. There are many good translations out there and I like the NASB but I use others as well. All…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 1 month ago

    Welcome LaDon,I would be happy to discuss with you. Thanks for all your thoughts. I'll try to keep my answers simple because the gospel is simple, really…and I believe that the whole Bible is inspired by God and inerrant in the original languages. There are many good translations out there and I like the NASB but I use others as well. All…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,I'm going to make you find it and bring it up, ha.Sorry…just a little smirky

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