Quote (Baker @ April 14 2011,10:21)Hi Kathi1 I always quote Hebrew 1:8, its funny I never went past that verse 8, even though I have read it before.  Another Scripture to prove Jesus preexisted.  Also that by His hands all was created, but I still believe by the power of Almighty God…..Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,I agree. I do believe that t…[Read more]

Apparently if we knew the nuances of Hebrew, the Gap theory does not 'hold water.' I found this on the web and without knowing anything about Hebrew myself, I can only consider that there may be something to what this guy wrote:“1. Hebrew grammar does not allow for a gap. it has to do with the nuances of the Vav-explicitavum, which is a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 13 2011,22:28)Mike,If He said that He and His Son created the world, they would have gone “what Son?”  It wasn't time for the revealing of the Son, the Son was still a mystery.  God was in unity with the Son and presented them as one to the Israelites.  When God revealed the Son, He also revealed His part in creation so th…[Read more]

Mike,Ok, but do you agree that He didn't empty Himself of divine nature to become flesh?

Mike,Ok, but do you agree that He didn't empty Himself of divine nature to become flesh?

Mike,It CLEARLY says that through Him all things were created…now back to the example I gave you regarding Rachel and Jacob and the maid. Rachel had a son THROUGH the maid. The maid did nearly the whole work, not Rachel who just gave the command.Do you see how the Son could have done nearly ALL the work and still the word 'through' could be…[Read more]

Mike,Surely you can see that the early church fathers understand the Son as taking part in creation. The NT wasn't written at the time that Acts was happening. The early church was still learning from the Spirit. They did not have the benefit of studying the NT and having several NT's in every home like us. Kathi

Mike,That's interesting, I will have to look into that. Do you agree that the Son did not empty Himself of His nature to become flesh?Kathi

Mike,That's interesting, I will have to look into that. Do you agree that the Son did not empty Himself of His nature to become flesh?Kathi

Mike,If He said that He and His Son created the world, they would have gone “what Son?” It wasn't time for the revealing of the Son, the Son was still a mystery. God was in unity with the Son and presented them as one to the Israelites. When God revealed the Son, He also revealed His part in creation so the Father doesn't take full credit for…[Read more]

Thank you Keith!Kathi

Thank you Keith!Kathi

Quote (Istari @ April 13 2011,15:19)Quote (Lightenup @ April 11 2011,06:52)Istari,Jesus, according to the flesh was led by the Spirit.  After He was risen, according to His flesh, He received the ok to give the Father's Spirit, together with the Spirit of the Son so that they would both dwell within the believers…by their spirit called 'the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 12 2011,22:01)Hi Kathi,That is a good take on it.  We KNOW from scripture that all things came FROM God and THROUGH Jesus, but beyond that, we don't really have a clue as to how “hands on” Jesus really was.We only know that as the “Authority Figure”, his Father demands all the credit for all of…[Read more]

My dear brothers,I hate what some girls are doing to tempt you. Today I was on my facebook and on the sideline was a profile picture of a girl that took her picture in a mirror and all she was wearing was her undies. She thought she should make this her profile picture and I am appalled at this behavior. Facebook was suggesting that I make her…[Read more]

Regarding the idea of the Father creating through the Son and then claiming the act as creator:I found this interesting, it was in the story of Jacob, Leah and Rachel. Rachel was barren and decided to have a son THROUGH her maid whom she gave to her husband to impregnate. Rachel, after her maid gave birth, claimed the child as HER (Rachel's)…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ April 12 2011,14:33)Mike and Istari,Permit me to clear something for you.I hope!! I feel that all this talking with regards to the tenses is nonsense for the simple reason that since you are reading modern scripture you will never get the right spirtual understanding or interpretation,because modern scripture are interested more…[Read more]

Dennison you are keeping me busy… You wrote in your post above:Quote 1. What can you offer as proof to state that God has not physical correlation with Man if he wished too. The bible claims that Jesus is the Second Adam. Adam didnt die, yet God said he would. So what died? “his divine nature”2. I dont think that makes a difference. Whether…[Read more]

Dennison,Have you been checked for allergies? I also am having a lot of headaches, just getting over one in fact. I am suspecting the pollen causing the problem. You ought to get a check up. I hope you feel better soon.Sending motherly love, Kathi

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 11 2011,18:45)Quote (Lightenup @ April 02 2011,09:12)Another thought Dennison,You are a son and one day, you may become a father also, and then much later you may become a grandfather too.  When you are a grandfather and you go to live with your grandchildren, one person (you as the grandfather) will be living with…[Read more]