Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2011,11:27)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,17:27)So Pierre,Do you think that God only created His Son and all else was created by His Son?KathiKathiyes mike as it right ,one God not created one god createdworship the one that is not created .the created one is a tittle for differentiate the position of the first and…[Read more]

Istari,you asked:Quote Kathi, what does that verse mean to you?(If the Son is to be honoured but God worshipped then are these both the same person, and if so, how are they separated: one for Honor and the other for Worship.Which is greater: Honor or Worship?Who is 'God', different from the Son? Is the Son also God?If the Son is also God in that…[Read more]

Elohim.

Mike,God in His fullness is a singular term representing a plurality. Family is also a singular term and also representing a plurality.

Quote (Baker @ April 16 2011,18:27)Wow, Kathy I have to agree with Mike and Pierre.  There are several Scriptures that say Almighty God is greater then Jesus is.  So when you worship Jesus like Jehovah God are you not going against the first great Commandment to love God with all of your Heart and with all of your soul?  Jesus is not Almighty Go…[Read more]

So Pierre,Do you think that God only created His Son and all else was created by His Son?Kathi

They are not one in being it is in another way they are one. One without the other would make them incomplete.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2011,15:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,14:25)Mike,Quote That's a good scripture for you to remember when you're worshipping the Son OF God as if he were God Himself.  I worship the Son of God as if He were the begotten God Himself, along with the God who beget Him.  I thought you could get that straight by n…[Read more]

Mike,Quote That's a good scripture for you to remember when you're worshipping the Son OF God as if he were God Himself. I worship the Son of God as if He were the begotten God Himself, along with the God who beget Him. I thought you could get that straight by now.Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2011,15:09)Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,13:47)Mike,Jesus is many things like prophet, messenger, shepherd, vine, gate, teacher, etc. because He is the Son of the living God.  He is not the son of the living God because he is those many things.  Get it?Hi Kathi,I don't get your point.  David was prophet, teacher, me…[Read more]

Mike,Where do you get the plural pronouns from?7“YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS;         YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR,         AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;8YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET.”         For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is…[Read more]

Eve was a sinless human being.

Mike,Jesus is many things like prophet, messenger, shepherd, vine, gate, teacher, etc. because He is the Son of the living God. He is not the son of the living God because he is those many things. Get it?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2011,13:04)Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,11:46)Some are prophets for instance.  A prophet is not an angel.Hi Kathi,Does your statement mean you DO agree with everything else I posted? Anyway, Jesus was most definitely a prophet of his God.  And the passage you quoted doesn't say that as the Son of the Living God w…[Read more]

Mike,Angels are fellow servants of God and no where are we told that we are to be a bond-servant to an angel but you know that we are to be bond-servants to the Father and the Son.Rev 22:9But he said to me, “Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship…[Read more]

Mike,And here you go:Matt 24:36American Standard VersionBut of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.Bible in Basic EnglishBut of that day and hour no one has knowledge, not even the angels in heaven, or the Son, but the Father only.Here we go with “is it 'of' or 'in'?”I believe that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2011,11:53)Okay all,Here's the scorecard so far:Galatians 4:14…….you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself.This scripture places Jesus in the “angel” category without a doubt.  Add to this the fact that any messenger of God is also an angel of God, for that's what the word…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2011,23:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 15 2011,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ April 15 2011,16:06)If Jesus is and angel, so is His Father because like begets like.KathiSo true! Scriptures and nature itself clearly teach “every seed bearing seed bears after its own kind”. (Gen 1:11, 21)No where in the scriptures do we…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 16 2011,00:38)Exactly Kathi,Finally we are hitting the crux of the matterDennison,I hope so!Kathi

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 15 2011,22:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2011,08:26)Quote (Lightenup @ April 14 2011,23:25)I don't recall if this verse was mentioned but I think that it is pretty clear that the Son of God is not considered an angel.”But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father…[Read more]