Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2011,23:25)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,22:08)Mike,I think that the confusion comes from labeling all messengers as angels.  If you just label those in the group of angel beings as angels, and those outside the group of angel beings as messengers, you could get more to the 'crux of the matter.'KathiKathi,What part…[Read more]

Hello Hi to you too Dennison,Yes finally that ol' 'crux of the matter' thing. Are you ever going to feel well enough to answer my questions on the freak greek thread?Kathi

Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,23:11)Quote (Lightenup @ April 18 2011,15:04)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,12:58)Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,09:45)Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 17 2011,14:58)Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,00:15)T8 I think that there were at least three Archangels called Cherub, in the Bible, at one time.  Gabriel,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2011,23:12)Quote (Lightenup @ April 18 2011,22:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2011,23:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 17 2011,21:52)We know that God is not an Angel, but he is a Spirit, the unseen.The ONLY reason God is not an angel is because God never delivered anyone else's message for them.Other than that,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2011,23:07)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,22:00)Irene,I asked you that because Georg said that if Jesus is a spirit being, then He is an angel…so if God is a spirit being wouldn't that make Him an angel according to that reasoning?Whose message did God ever deliver?  And no, delivering your own words to someone…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2011,23:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 17 2011,21:52)We know that God is not an Angel, but he is a Spirit, the unseen.The ONLY reason God is not an angel is because God never delivered anyone else's message for them.Other than that, “aggelos” simply means “messenger”.  It is we in English who distinguish heavenly…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,12:58)Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,09:45)Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 17 2011,14:58)Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,00:15)T8 I think that there were at least three Archangels called Cherub, in the Bible, at one time.  Gabriel, Michael and Lucifer who became Satan. Eze 28:14   Thou the anointed cherub t…[Read more]

Irene,I asked you that because Georg said that if Jesus is a spirit being, then He is an angel…so if God is a spirit being wouldn't that make Him an angel according to that reasoning?

Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,22:49)Kathy!  Funny, is God Spirit?  No…. As far as Jesus is concerned, I do believe He was an Angel. Above all Angels.    IMO He volunteered to die for us.  Now He is  seated at the right hand of Almighty God.  Has immortality and will not die again.  Nobody has received eternal life yet, except Jesus.  He is the f…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2011,22:36)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,21:30)Mike,Cute! Quote You welcomed me as if I were one of the seven dwarfs, as if I were Sleepy himself.I see it more like:You welcomed me as if I were one of the seven dwarfs, as if I were Snow White, herself.Same story, different emphasis.But yours makes no sense because…[Read more]

Mike,Cute! Quote You welcomed me as if I were one of the seven dwarfs, as if I were Sleepy himself.I see it more like:You welcomed me as if I were one of the seven dwarfs, as if I were Snow White, herself.Same story, different emphasis.

Good post Dennison-son!I want to add that if Gal 4:14 is saying that Jesus is an angel of God,and that which was a trial to you in my bodily condition you did not despise or loathe, but you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself.then this passage:24Then Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him until daybreak. 25When he…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2011,21:32)Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2011,20:20)With this post, I just wanted to explain why looking at the Greek is very helpful to distinguish which variation of translation is closest to the intent of the original language.  I haven't the faintest idea why you would have a problem with that…it is a good thing,…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 17 2011,20:38)Kathi,Why is it that Scriptures only says explicitly that Angels are to Worship Jesus Christ?Why were the Angels instructed to Worship Jesus Christ?Kathi, is Jesus an Angel or a Man NOW?If Angel, how does Angel worship Angel? Oh and doesn't Scriptures that God(!!) placed him high above all powers,…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 17 2011,19:28)Kathi,I'm sorry for that… I posted before I looked it up. Then all this nonsense with Mikeboll and SF kicked off so I didn't get back.However, the essence of what I wrote was there : Worship God; glorify the Son.The text does not say 'worship in the Spirit of God'.Kathi, what does that mean? Worship in the…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 17 2011,15:33)Kathi,I was not stating that there were no verses saying 'Honor the Father' for Honor is embodied in Worship: one cannot Worship without also first honouring.The verse was there but it seemed you deliberately 'Missed it' so you did not have to answer it.Here it is again:Phil 3:3 'We..worship God in the Spirit…[Read more]

Heb 31Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest of our confession; 2He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house. 3For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house. 4For…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ April 17 2011,00:45)Quote (Lightenup @ April 16 2011,08:10)csaliba,Quote Be light made,this means that God now has incarnated His son spiritual body within Lucifer's.so both of them represented the Light within the darkness.Sorry but that is not scriptural. KathiKathi,Genesis 1:3 And God said: Be light made. And light was made…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 17 2011,13:45)Mike Said: Quote It seems to me that Dennison was right about this point.  Although “aggelos” does simply mean “messenger”, and was used of human beings as well as heavenly spirit beings, the NT writers do seem to distinguish a group of beings called “aggelos” from mankind in this verse.  There's also H…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,09:45)Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 17 2011,14:58)Quote (Baker @ April 17 2011,00:15)T8 I think that there were at least three Archangels called Cherub, in the Bible, at one time.  Gabriel, Michael and Lucifer who became Satan. Eze 28:14   Thou the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee : thou w…[Read more]