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    Mike,I am a Christian. That's it!

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    Quote (Istari @ May 29 2011,04:20)Kathi and All,Romans 9:5… '…who is over all, Eternally blessed God, Amen'Does anyone think that this statement is pertaining to Jesus? How?Jesus, even if 'called' God – Mighty One – CANNOT POSSIBLY BE 'Eternal God' because his reign as 'God' is only 'UNTIL ALL THINGS ARE PUT UNDER HIS FEET'.Then he hands the…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ May 29 2011,05:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2011,13:33)Oh I see now.  Jesus DOES actually HAVE human nature even though scripture says he “partook” of it.    But we won't acutally HAVE divine nature because scripture says we only partake of it?Seems to me like a double standard to further a doctrine.Good post too.Really, t8…good po…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2011,18:27)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2011,15:22)There is no 'the' in 1c.Correct.  That's why we know Jesus is not THE God, but A god.  :)Obviously you are misconstruing or misunderstanding my words to even say that and I believe you are doing it on purpose. read what I say about the 'a'There is no 'the' in 1c. and &…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2011,18:26)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2011,15:28)Istari,People have been teaching the eternal Son who was begotten before the ages since the early church.But not any people who actually partook in writing the scriptures, right?  :)Wrong, Peter partook in writing the scriptures and I showed you the Syriac document of what…[Read more]

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    Mike,They were however satisfied with Addaeus' answer weren't they. And, bottom line what Addaeus has said is in direct and utter conflict with the way you tried to mishandle scripture by changing words, adding words, misunderstanding words, etc. Addaeus was told by the Lord to shake off the dust at the doorstep and walk away because of those…[Read more]

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    Hi Wispring,You ought to learn about the passive and active voice of Greek verbs. I believe that would really help you better understand what the original text was saying. When the verb is in the active voice then the subject actively did the action themself, when the verb is in the passive sense, the action is done to the subject. Here is…[Read more]

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    Mike,From the post at the top of this page…you said:Quote Kathi, EVERYTHING was “in Him” at one time. Paul said that ALL THINGS came FROM the Father. Are ALL THINGS from eternity just because they came FROM God?This is what Paul said: 1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one…[Read more]

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    I think this is pretty good, maybe not perfect but I think that it gets the point across. It is a poem about the two natures of Christ, both God,as the Son and man. I hope it helps :)An Exposition of The MysteriesHe was laid in a manger and wrapped in swaddling clothes, as Man;and the watchers extolled Him with their praises, as God.He offered…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ May 29 2011,06:23)Is:2,None will ever be the Father and none will ever be the Son.Theres an order to things. First God the Father. then God the Son, then everybody else including the Angels. They will never be the Father or Son and neither will we.Good post Shimmer!No one can become God if they have been something else before…[Read more]

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    Istari,People have been teaching the eternal Son who was begotten before the ages since the early church. I am not teaching that which is new, just trying to say it in a way to give some more understanding. Also, the eternal Father has been taught and believed on long before.I have told you that the manner in which the offspring was within the…[Read more]

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    Mike,There is no 'the' in 1c. and 'beget' is not there either, nor is there an 'a' btw.The God beget a God. correct, imoThe God never beget a god. also correct.The God only beget one God who is His Son. also correct.

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    MikeIt may have went something like this:Just know that whenever God says something to you or when you see God, it is His Son who you are seeing and hearing and His Son is our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, even Jehovah as the Son of the unseen Jehovah. He you can see because the Godhead is both unseen and seen, heard and not heard because there…[Read more]

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    Paul,Don't spend the time…he continually adds words and interpretations that I have never said or suggested. For one, I have never used the term 'incubation' in my understanding in fact I have told him that and you can see that he uses the term even here. I appreciate your efforts…really do!Blessings,Kathi

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,21:48)Tempe, Az.Here is one for you to try Mike. It sounds like there are students of the word there. They believe in the inerrancy of the Bible and the Apostles' Creed. That is something you have in common with them. Service Times & DirectionsSunday Worship Services: 9:15am11:00amConnection Center Hours:…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,21:33)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,19:39)Jesus always had His divinity nature and with the incarnation, He also took on the nature of humanity.  He although glorified, still has these two natures even now and that is one reason He calls us 'brethren.'Oh I see now.  Jesus DOES actually HAVE human nature even t…[Read more]

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    Mike,The Father always existed, you know that right? The Son was in Him. You deny that the scriptures call Him 'our great God and Savior.'Titus 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,Romans 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the…[Read more]

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    This is another ancient Syriac document entitled, “The Teaching of Addaeus, the Apostle.” Addaeus followed Jesus while He was alive and died a martyr's death, Abgar was a king who had written to Jesus asking for Him to come and heal him…Jesus wrote back and said that He would send one of His followers that could help him and the one sent was…[Read more]

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    Irene,Those people died because they would not worship the government's gods but were followers of Christ. You ought to read more about the martyrs. The Jews were the first persecutors…think Paul of Tarsus. Find out why Stephen was persecuted. Learn more about this. I will be putting another historical Syriac document that was officially…[Read more]

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    Mike,Find yourself a good teaching church and get in a small group. There you can discuss and learn. Keep trying till you find one that teaches from the Bible and where the members also bring their Bibles and follow along…that is a good sign :) Check out their class for potential new members, you should be able to discuss your opinions there.…[Read more]

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