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Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 11 months ago
Here is another document, “The Teaching of the Apostles” that is very informative. It talks about the apostles receiving the gift of the Spirit, how Christ is the Son of God from everlasting and about the first day of the week service, also it gives acknowledgement to Addaeus the Apostle which the previous document that I added here, was about.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 12 months ago
Irene needs our prayers, please see the 'pray for others' thread. Thanks, Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 14 years, 12 months ago
Irene needs our prayers, please see the 'pray for others' thread. Thanks, Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Irene needs our prayers ya'll. See the pray for others thread. Thanks!
Lightenup replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 14 years, 12 months ago
Tiffany, remember me? I met you at your grandparent's house. I will gladly pray for her and the surgeon. I hope you are doing well also.Love and prayers,Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Mike,Quote Ah, but YOUR distinction doesn't designate one as higher than the other, does it.Yes it does because 'Father' indicates a greater position than the word 'Son' yet it still indicates equal nature. That is how I will make the distinction if there seems to be confusion. I am glad that you are making a distinction between Jesus and satan…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 12 months ago
You are welcome Mike

Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 12 months ago
I don't think you know what trinitarians believe and they believe differently amongst themselves, anyway. Why don't you list what you are asking according to what you think makes a trinitarian, a trinitarian.Thank,Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Only Mike and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 14 years, 12 months ago
Ok Mike, it seems that I could not even prove that the Father was eternal to you so It is fine with me if we move on. From now, maybe we should just ask for a good reason for the other to consider another point of view and not ask for proof. How about that?I would like to explore the idea of the nature of man and the nature of God through what s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011,21:03)I'm sorry Kathi,I fail to see where I attributed the words “a god” to you.Mike,You used the words “we know” when addressing me. Who else was part of the 'we' if only you were posting to me?Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2011,21:08)I know. I'll try from now on to use “GOD” for GOD Almighty”, “God” for Jesus, and “god” for Satan and the others.That way Jesus is not on the same plane as his own GOD, but is distinguished above the other gods that GOD is the GOD of. Does that work for you?Thank you Mike. It helps more, imo, to d…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (t8 @ May 31 2011,17:09)There is one God the Father. He is the true God.Theos as applied to anyone else, (including Jesus) is not meant to be taken as the eternal one true God.Theos has other legitimate uses, just as adam and devil do. But the one true theos is applied to the Father exclusively just as there is one Devil and one Adam. (Yes…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2011,16:22)Mike,There is no 'the' in 1c. and 'beget' is not there either, nor is there an 'a' btw.The God beget a God. correct, imoThe God never beget a god. also correct.The God only beget one God who is His Son. also correct.Mike,This is where you were deceptive. Regarding your response to the above quoted post of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ May 30 2011,04:37)Thanks Kathi.And I like that song/poem that you put.———————-To anyone, if you think that Jesus is just a god among other gods, or whatever you think, and should be mentioned just briefly at the end of each prayer, then look at this…Acts 7:59They stoned Stephen as he called out, saying, “Lord…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2011,09:43)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2011,23:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2011,18:26)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2011,15:28)Istari,People have been teaching the eternal Son who was begotten before the ages since the early church.But not any people who actually partook in writing the scriptures, right?
Wrong, Peter…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Mike, If you were all about the truth now, you wouldn't keep implying that I agree with the 'a god' idea you want to spin off on us. So when you lie about what I say, then don't tell me you are 'addicted to truth.'If you were truthful you would not keep saying something that you know is NOT true.I should know if THAT what you say is true or not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ May 30 2011,12:31)Kathi! This is what Jesus saysJhn 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.Also a Son did not always exist. Jesus had a beginning which you don't address, and gave me an ar…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 12 months ago
Istari and readers of his supposed declaration of what I say here,It would take so much of my time to unscramble the web of Istari's misconcepts of what I say and Istari's misunderstanding of the two natures of Christ. Just suffice this to say to the other readers, when Istari tries to convey what I understand, just don't take the time to read.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only Mike and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 14 years, 12 months ago
Mike,Eve did not create her son otherwise she would be her son's creator and we know that she is merely a creature. The Bible says that the creature is not the creator.Rom 1:24Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25For they exchanged the truth of God for a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 12 months ago
Mike,1 Corinthians 1:10Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11For I have been informed concerning you, my brethren, by Chloe’s people, that there are quarrels among you. 12Now I mean t…[Read more]
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