Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,21:52)Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:34)Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died.  Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 02 2011,21:52)Quote (Lightenup @ June 02 2011,20:34)Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died.  Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote God would be equally Almighty whether or not He ever beget a Son. How is it that you've come to the conclusion that God in any way NEEDS Jesus?God is self-sufficient and NEEDS no one. How does God GIVING all power and authority to His Son somehow make Him more mighty? Could God be a Father of a proper offspring without…[Read more]

Mike,How about 'Almighty God,' El Shaddai likely meaning Godhead. Take away one member who is 'of' the Father and you have a less mighty God.It isn't hard.Kathi

Mike,How about 'Almighty God,' El Shaddai likely meaning Godhead. Take away one member who is 'of' the Father and you have a less mighty God.It isn't hard.Kathi

Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died. Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became man…true? This is not the case with any…[Read more]

Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died. Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became man…true? This is not the case with any…[Read more]

Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember? The government is weak, not the government are weak.

Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember? The government is weak, not the government are weak.

Mike,Their oneness consists of more than one person.Also, if God was always Almighty, then He was never without His Son and their Spirit. Which way is God more mighty…with the Son or without the Son? With the Son, right? A no brainer. So, if God was always ALMIGHTY, then He always had the Son. He didn't go from 'mighty' to 'almighty' as…[Read more]

Istari,How do you know that the Son wasn't always IN the Father before He came out of the Father? I have proven that when the offspring is alive within the parent…the parent is the parent just as much then as after the birth. If someone sees a pregnant woman and asks her who the father is, there is a sure answer that someone is the father at…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 02 2011,14:33)The Father could not be, unless there is a Son.  its a depending role, and for there to be a Son there must be a Father, another depending role that has requierements.  The scriptures state that God isnt dependant on anything he is omnipotent. just my two cents on the matter Yes Dennison-son,It is e…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,14:33)Quote (Istari @ June 01 2011,18:01)All this because you KNOW THAT A GOD CANNOT DIE – so you MUST SAY THAT JESUS DIDN'T DIE!!God is Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus did not die because he was the “Eternal life” that was with the Father in the beginning of all things. 1 John 1:1-3Eternal life cannot…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,14:33)Quote (Istari @ June 01 2011,18:01)All this because you KNOW THAT A GOD CANNOT DIE – so you MUST SAY THAT JESUS DIDN'T DIE!!God is Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus did not die because he was the “Eternal life” that was with the Father in the beginning of all things. 1 John 1:1-3Eternal life cannot…[Read more]

I take it Istari, that you don't read the commentary of the experts to compare your understanding to. You would not be able to say this was me deluding myself. See, I read the scriptures with a teachable heart, then confirm my understanding with respected commentaries. You should try it.

Istari,I agree, God is the Father…BUT He is not God, the Father without the Son. The Son is perfect like the Father and is in the Father. Inseparable.

t8Obviously you didn't read the documents. I am not teaching a trinity doctrine. I am interested in Christianity. Please read the documents and discuss them, that is what this topic is about, thanks.

Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2011,03:45)Kathy,You wrote:Quote Hi Kerwin,God begets God who contains the Father God's nature.A god begets nothing.God cannot beget a god.Perfect cannot beget imperfect.andGod adopts sons who partake of His nature.Only one Son was truly begotten according to His essential nature.  That Son is unlike all others.You are…[Read more]

Istari,If one is acting as a emissary then that should be made clear in the context. There is nothing that says that in Gen 18 at all. Gen 19:24 Then Jehovah rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven,

Istari,Just because the scripture says that someone will be called by a certain name does not mean that they aren't that name beforehand…the people just don't realize it and therefore don't see Him as that yet.