Another…this identifies Christ as God, the God OVER ALL.English Standard Version Romans 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

Here is one Keith,John 1:1-3 says the Son was God in the beginning, before creation. That debunks the idea that the Son becomes God after His resurrection.Kathi

Quote (Istari @ June 09 2011,16:00)Kathi, and others,What does Rev 3:14 mean by 'These things say the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the BEGINNING of the CREATION of God'?Istari,I think that these two interpretations give a clearer sense of the verse and then also what Barnes says, but I'm not sure:Young's Literal Translation'And to the…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 09 2011,16:03)Kathi, and others,In Rev 3:12, who is Jesus' God – and how is Jesus' God different from Jesus being God himself?Are there 'different' hierachial orders of the SAME 'God'?Jesus' God is God the Father. God the Father is different from Jesus in that Jesus is God as the Son. There are not two who are Father. The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2011,23:01)Quote (terraricca @ June 09 2011,21:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2011,21:09)Quote (Lightenup @ June 09 2011,13:21)As you can see Jehovah God is two personsKathi says:  “As you can see Jehovah God is two persons.”Scripture says:  “Jehovah our God is ONE.”MikeKathi has double vision   PierreWell, she does li…[Read more]

Irene,Sorry you are having pain from your surgery. I hope you feel better soon.As you can see Jehovah God is two persons, one as the Father, one as the Son. You can't have one without the other.Love, Kathi

Quote (Pastry @ June 08 2011,18:33)Quote (Lightenup @ May 31 2011,16:39)Quote (Pastry @ May 30 2011,12:31)Kathi!  This is what Jesus saysJhn 14:28   Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.Also a Son did not always e…[Read more]

Irene,I believe these men because they are saying what I believe the Lord had shown me before I ever saw what these men had written.I am glad that you realize that your beliefs do not line up with the apostle's writings here. It is important that you see that. Now it is up to you to dig deeper to see if they are saying what lines up with…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2011,17:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 08 2011,12:13)Quote (Lightenup @ June 06 2011,16:41)Pierre,Are you waiting to love others when their doctrine lines up with what you think.  I think that is a little backwards.  Try loving first and let God take care of the rest.  Foster a spirit of understanding within yo…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 05 2011,14:14)t8,I didn't ask you to read a 'book,' just some documents which are 1-3 pages long, heck, just read the three that I have put up so far.  I would hardly call that a 'book.'  Also, I would hardly describe me as bouncing around from one thing to another.  Geesh!  I have been expressing that Jesus was the lit…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,18:34)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 06 2011,02:49)The council of Nicea dealt primarily with the issue of the deity of Christ. Over a century earlier the use of the term “Trinity” (“trinitas” in Latin) could be found in the writings of Origen (185-254) and Tertullian (160-220), and a general notion of a “divine three”, in…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote “Common sense” tells me to believe what's written, and not make up my own conclusion or words just because they speak what my ears are aching to hear.Good, then you can see that God is from everlasting to everlasting. That's a start.NASB ©Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote From our own point in time, we could rightfully say that Abraham was from “owlam” and his son Isaac was from “owlam”, right?What part of those two statements would tell our common sense that the “days of antiquity” that Abraham was from must be EARLIER days of antiquity than the days of antiquity that Isaac was from?Yes, common…[Read more]

Pierre,Yes, I do, actually, now that you asked.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2011,17:08)Quote (Lightenup @ June 05 2011,20:36)Ps 90:2 Before the mountains themselves were born,Or you proceeded to bring forth as with labor pains the earth and the productive land,Even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.I don't know why you can't see this verse talking about Him being from eternity…[Read more]

Pierre,Are you waiting to love others when their doctrine lines up with what you think. I think that is a little backwards. Try loving first and let God take care of the rest. Foster a spirit of understanding within yourself of why people believe certain things. Everyone is at a different place in their walk and we all see things dimly. Love…[Read more]

Preach it Keith…preach it!Dennison,You ought to try to find the good in things…it is a much better way to live!I'm sure that satan would want you bashing churches.I'm also sure that God would not want you bashing churches.So you choose who you will serve.This country was founded on the desire for freedom of religion. Many denominations are a…[Read more]

You are welcome Irene…I was happy to lift you up in prayer! Glad all went well for the little German girl Love, Kathi

Hey Georg,I am so glad to hear it! Irene you should be home by now. Many of us were praying for you. Get your rest and follow your doctor's orders Love, Kathi