Pierre,I don't know when it will be sung or if it has been sung already. I do know that it was true as soon as Jesus was slain.Kathi

Pierre,Our discussion was about calling Jesus our Father as the one in the Syriac document.  I told you that we can call Jesus our Father because He is the one who gives us eternal life.  Then I showed you a plain scripture that said that Jesus gives us eternal life.  You are right in that it is conditional but that was not what the discussion wa…[Read more]

Oh Mike,You are trying so hard to make this more difficult than it needs to be.you said:Quote Why? When I speak to my own father, I don't imagine that I'm talking to him AND my brother at the same time.You wouldn't be speaking to your father if he never had children would you You would not even be speaking to your father without the recognition…[Read more]

Pierre,It was a new song because it was about a new deliverance from the deliverance in the song of Moses. Here is some more about that:Gill's Exposition of the Entire BibleAnd they sung a new song,…. Upon a new occasion and subject, redemption by the blood of the Lamb, and his worthiness to open the sealed book; and in distinction from the old…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote God is spirit ,this means that what ever he says or want it is his will,and truth,God is spirit means that He is not flesh but is spirit. God is God, that is why what ever He says or wants is His will and truth.Kathi

Quote (942767 @ July 10 2011,11:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,05:46)Hi Marty,Were you going to address my last post on this thread?  Or should I just be waiting for the time that you finally find a scripture that actually prohibits Jesus from pre-existing?  Hi Mike:The following scripture prohibits Jesus from preexisting as a human b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,13:24)Quote (Lightenup @ July 10 2011,12:19)William, Doesn't this say that the Father is or at least can be present everywhere by His Spirit?I agree 100% with the bolded part, Kathi.

Pierre,The Spirit is not the will of God but it is directed by the will of God.Hebrews 2:4God also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.John 16:13″But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His…[Read more]

Here ya go Pierre:27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29“My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30“I and the Father are one.”[Read more]

Pierre,I do not agree with you. I will look for some scripture that tells us who gives us eternal life.Kathi

Mike,That is because the Father is in heaven and through His Spirit He extends to creation, imo. And in that manner, He can be said to be dwelling in heaven but also with us in the remotest part of the sea. I think that it is through His Spirit that God can be anywhere/everywhere.Back to topic.Kathi

Mike,First of all the 'song of the Lamb' is not referring to a song that the Lamb sang. It is a song about the Lamb as the deliverer. See here:Rev 5:98When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 08 2011,18:29)I said that God is everywhere, but I see “God” as an office where Jesus is His agent here, and the Holy Spirit within us, has our realm covered and scripture is clear that the Father seats in Heaven (the spiritual realm). Now if the question had been “where is the Father”, I would have said heaven only.…[Read more]

Pierre,I can tell that you do not understand the truth that the Son has given believers eternal life and thus He is a Father to the believers in that sense. He has a Father who also is our Father. Read this from that same document, with that understanding:For we have a Father in heaven whose will we follow, and He says: “He that shall confess Me…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote and now you drop all scriptures that says he is the son and not the father ? so now it is God who died on the cross?is that what you try to say ?No, I wrote that Jehovah our God is the unity of the God of gods who is the Father and the Lord of lords who is the Son. The person who died on the cross is the Son…His human flesh died,…[Read more]

Back to the topic of the thread…Here is another historical Syriac document entitled “Martyrdom of the Holy Confessors.” This includes Shamuna, Guria, and Habib, from Simeon Metaphrastes.In the six hundredth year from the empire of Alexander the Macedonian, when Diocletian had been nine years sovereign of the Romans, and Maximian was consul for…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2011,22:58)So not only do we have TWO Gods, but also TWO Jesus's?  We have a HUMAN Jesus AND a GOD Jesus?Kathi, our ONE Jesus is the one who sang the song TO God Almighty.  The word “AND” is clear enough for anyone who is not deliberately trying to exchange clear words for nonsense.What you imply is that Jesus, who is a…[Read more]

Pierre, Jehovah our God is the God of gods (the Father) and the Lord of lords (the Son). psalm 136:1 Give thanks to Jehovah, for He is good, For His lovingkindness is everlasting. 2 Give thanks to the God of gods, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.  3 Give thanks to the Lord of lords, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.  4 To Him who a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2011,22:04)Sometimes I forget to subtract things.  Hey, together we could make up one almost normal person!      Like…together, the Father and the Son with their Spirit, make the Father one Almighty God.

Quote (terraricca @ July 07 2011,23:54)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2011,22:45)Yes, I know Pierre.  But you are suggesting that the supernatural ability was in the hearing and not the speaking.  That's why I said that.  Anyway, it was just kind of a joke.Kathisee it this way;it is the holy spirit of god that does all the miracles and so do not de…[Read more]