Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2011,20:59)Quote (terraricca @ July 21 2011,16:59)but when God is called Lord of Lords ,this as to be seen he is the Lord over whatever his, his creation and so includes the Lord Christ,Hmmmm……………I wonder if that's why our Lord of lords calls the God of gods “my God”?  Perhaps that's also why he says that our…[Read more]

20“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23I i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2011,20:19)Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,13:00)Mike,I think that it was both their decision and foreordained before the foundation of the world.Is there a scripture where JESUS' will is the one done in heaven or on earth?  Is there a scripture where their “combined will” is done?Or are there only scriptures where the…[Read more]

Mike,There are angels in heaven and we are not to worship angels. The firstborn over all creation created them. Only the Father and the Son receive worship.If you want verses to prove that there are angels in heaven, do a word search.If you want to see that the firstborn over all creation created all things in heaven, go to Col 1.If you want to…[Read more]

Well, Pierre, I can't answer a question if I don't understand what is being asked. Maybe someone else that claims to understand your posts can answer you.Kathi

Pierre,He was not created.  You miss truth there.  The God of gods created the world through the Lord of lords, creation belongs to both of them, just like salvation belongs to both of them.  Both of them form a compound unity named Jehovah, our God.You say it is not scriptural but you do not defend that with apologetics, so it is only the op…[Read more]

Pierre,Can you narrow your question? I don't know what you are getting at.Kathi

Irene,See the date on which I showed you the Deuteronomy 10:17 verse in the quote in the above post? July 18th was just 3 days ago and until Pierre showed you the Deuteronomy 10:17 verse, you showed that you didn't have a clue about it. I'm sure that is frustrating for you and realize that your lack of memory is something that we all have to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,17:28)Irene,you asked:Quote Where is it in Scripture that makes them both Jehovah God?Irene, read this post through carefully…Deut 10:17“For the LORD your God is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.Now read this:Rev 7:14…[Read more]

Pierre,I don't know what Paul would say, but I know that you don't want to believe what I say so you need to find some things out for yourself. You are a fisherman, right? When someone wants a fish from you, over and over, do you just hand them a fish or teach them to fish for themselves?Try fishing with a word search…bait your hook and throw…[Read more]

Pierre,you said:Quote Christ is never called the God of gods is he ?I haven't exhausted the study of that, but as far as I can tell, the Son is not referred to as the God of gods.Quote but God is called LORD OF LORDSJehovah our God is called Lord of lords but I don't believe the Father alone is.  Quote AND SO IS CHRISTYes, the only begotten Son,…[Read more]

Pierre,Do a Bible word search for 'image' and 'nature' and see if you can further your Biblical understanding on this matter.Kathi

Pierre,What are you doing? What is that supposed to tell me?

t8Quote It's the same argument as “Is Adam and Eve equal as adam.We know that both are fully adam.So if Jesus is theos in nature and we can partake in divine nature and will have a body like his, then yes we are the same.But in name, position, and authority, he is greater just as Adam was greater in position as the first born son. Adam and…[Read more]

The presence or existence of the Son is why God is Almighty AND Father.  The Son has always existed.  The Father has always been Almighty.Without the Son, God would not be Almighty or Father, imo.  The Father is Almighty only when the Son is with Him.  The Son is always with Him, the Son is eternal too.  Thus, the Father is always Almighty.

Pierre,you said:Quote ll are submit to God JehovahWho is Jehovah our God, Pierre.  First you need to know who this is in order to build your foundation on a rock so that the storms can't blow it over.Here is your answer:”For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show…[Read more]

MIke,The Church is a compound unity literally, male or female, it doesn't matter.Jehovah our God is a compound unity literally, male or female it doesn't matter.Kathi

Mike,I am not playing your game where you keep changing the question. The question of yours that I quoted was sufficient to ask for me to prove what was necessary for Jehovah our God to be a compound unity and yet to be referred to with a singular personal pronoun.I proved that and I am done proving that. It is an established fact that the church…[Read more]

Mike,This should help you know that we are to worship Jehovah, our God:Deut 6:13 “You shall fear only Jehovah your God ; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.Deut 26:10 'Now behold, I have brought the first of the produce of the ground which You, O Jehovah have given me.' And you shall set it down before Jehovah your God, and worship…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2011,21:30)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,16:57)PS…we made it to page 200!!  I don't know if that is good or bad.  Seems like this should be settled long ago and really not been an issue with such a wonderful Jesus that we have.Nobody is doubting how wonderful Jesus is, Kathi.  But you are right, this really should ha…[Read more]