Why ask T. to explain what someone else means? He cannot help you get your answers to what you want to get straight, Princess. If you want to know what I mean, then you ought to ask me, wouldn't that be obvious. Or should I ask T. why you don't just ask me what I mean?Kathi

Marty,You don't even accept that the Son pre-existed so I don't expect you to 'get it' that Jehovah is the name for the unity of two persons.Love to you,Kathi

Irene,You are taking it all wrong.you said:Quote You said that those who have poor education, hardly carry he spirit of truthThis is what I said:Men or women having poor education and communication skills hardly proves that they carry the spirit of truth.Someone seemed to be trying to make a case that scriptures teach that unlearned men spoke from…[Read more]

No Irene, that was not the question. I asked where does it say that we are one with the Father.Jehovah God is two persons. Deut 10:17 and 1 Cor 8:6 tells you who Jehovah God is…both the Father and the Son. The Son says that He and the Father are one. That is TWO persons that are ONE Irene and we can be in THEM, not just in HIM.Think about…[Read more]

Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread. You have me curious God bless, Kathi

Irene,I never said that people without education cannot have the ability to know truth. Good grief! No need to be offended.I was explaining that lacking education does not make one automatically know truth or visa versa.It is the Spirit that leads us into all truth, not education. However, there are very educated people that have the Spirit…[Read more]

Irene,It says that we can be one in THEM, not just the Father. Now ask yourself why, Irene. It is because they are a unity. How is it that believer's can be in THEM, Irene? Are we going to become more members within their unity and also be Jehovah God or simply be the saints/ the adopted sons in the kingdom of Jehovah God and be in them…[Read more]

Pierre,I am fully aware of that verse. The one saying “I am the LORD; that is my name” is Jehovah our God who is both the Father and the Son. Jehovah is the name of their unity. Both the Father and the Son will not give up their glory to anyone, the glory that they have with one another.Jesus tells us that they shared a common glory and will…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2011,01:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:19)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,22:48)BTW, that Hebrew word for Lord, the first Lord in 'Lord of lords,' is Adonay.  The word used ONLY for our deity Lord.You are mistaken, Kathi.  Ask Jack.  He quoted Barnes or someone who made the same claim you did, and I showed him TW…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 28 2011,17:36)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,15:08)Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2011,18:02)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,16:40)Pierre,Wrong verse…keep looking in John 17.KathiKathiyou mean that this one is not true ?PierrePierre,This response of yours really makes me question your comprehension skills.I never said the verse…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 20 2011,23:30)Quote (terraricca @ July 20 2011,16:55)Kathijust remember we are all gods PierrePsalm 82:6“I said, ‘You are “gods”;   you are all sons of the Most High.’Gill's Exposition of the Entire BibleI have said, ye are gods,…. In the law, Exodus 21:6 or they were so by his appointment and commission; he constitute…[Read more]

t8,I don't teach that God is ever not almighty.  I teach that He has always been almighty.  He has always been with the Son.The Son that pre-existed the flesh never died.  The Father was never without the Son.  The Son of Man who had flesh died.The unity of Jehovah our God is not a person but made up of two persons, the Father and the Son.Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,12:36)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2011,23:12)Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2011,23:58)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2011,22:53)Mike,you said in your post above to Keith:Quote God is the “ULTIMATE SAVIOR”, because no one else would have the power to even save a single hair on their head if not for Him.  This is what it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2011,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ July 28 2011,23:20)Pierre, Here is your scripture:See my notes in parenthesis:Isaiah 19:20It will become a sign and a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the LORD (Jehovah our God, the unity of the Father and the Son) because of oppressors, and He (still…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:19)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,22:48)BTW, that Hebrew word for Lord, the first Lord in 'Lord of lords,' is Adonay.  The word used ONLY for our deity Lord.You are mistaken, Kathi.  Ask Jack.  He quoted Barnes or someone who made the same claim you did, and I showed him TWO scriptures where “adonay” was us…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:28)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,22:53)Together the Father and the Son agreed to have the Father send the Son to be the Savior of the world.  Why didn't you just say that they agreed the Son would go?  If they both agreed on it, then why did one SEND the other?  This gets more amusing all the time.Anyway, is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 28 2011,22:30)Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,23:20)Pierre,Here is your scripture:See my notes in parenthesis:Isaiah 19:20It will become a sign and a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the LORD (Jehovah our God, the unity of the Father and the Son) because of oppressors, and He (still…[Read more]

Mike,Where does it say that we are to be one with the Father?Yes Pierre, listen to Mike and let it go because your verse does not say that we will be one with the Father.Kathi

Isaiah 54:5“For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD of hosts; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth.Six names for Jesus here:Husband…He is the bridegroom after all.Maker…All things came into being by Him and for Him.LORD (Jehovah) of hosts…Jehovah our God is the God of gods and the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2011,23:14)Pierre has probably forgotten more about scripture than I'll ever know, Kathi.  And just so you know, Jesus is the Messiah, THE ANOINTED ONE OF JEHOVAH GOD.  Jeremiah 30:9Instead, they will serve the LORD their God and David their king, whom I will raise up for them.Ezekiel 34:24 I the LORD will be their G…[Read more]