Mike,Verbs would agree with the subject as to both being third person and singular and gender if a pronoun isn't added but one is supplied for readability. The verb 'would be' refers to the church which is feminine and the feminine pronoun for third person singular is 'she.'Eph 5:27that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory,…[Read more]

Here Jesus is said to be Lord of all which fits nicely into Deut 10:17:17“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. Acts 10:3434Opening his mouth, Peter said:“I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, 35b…[Read more]

Ok Jack, thanks.Blessings,Kathi

Irene,I explained to you that Jehovah is God of gods and Lord (adonay) of lords (adown). Jehovah is both God and Lord (adonay).1 Cor 8:6 tells us who is our one God, Irene but who is our ONE Lord (adonay), Irene? I am not asking who is our one LORD (Jehovah).Jehovah is not just God but Jehovah is God AND Lord (adonay).You give me a lot of…[Read more]

Irene,Jehovah is both God AND Lord, not just God.Who is our ONE Lord, Irene?1Cr 8:6 But to us one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom all things, and we by him. Kathi

Pierre,Those are all good verses, thanks for putting them up. From a quick glance, I would say that the LORD was appearing as the Son, the spokesperson of Jehovah, representing the unity of Him and His Father. I didn't do any thorough study of most of them, though.God bless,Kathi

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 03 2011,00:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2011,11:05)t8Jesus is THE image, not 'an' image.Please point out where I said he was an image. Because I agree that he is the image. The full expression. Where did I say “an image”?t8,I was only pointing out that Christ is THE image…not others. It wasn't about you saying that He was 'an'…[Read more]

t8,The title 'Most High' can be applied to Jesus, or the Father, or the unity of the Father and the Son. It depends on context. According to 1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.In this verse, the Father…[Read more]

I agree Jack,The adopted sons, although equally part of the family, will never be exactly like the 'biological' son, even as much as t8 would like to make it appear so.Kathi

Hi Jack,Well, I do believe that there were two that shared a mutual perfect love. However, I believe that we can love ourselves and so there only needs to be one to do that.Gal 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”Blessings,Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,20:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,22:18)Do I need to dumb it down for ya Mike, is that what you are saying? Yes please.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,22:18)The Son of God is a co-equal member of the unity with the God that He is the Son of.Kathi, who exactly makes up our ONE “God Almighty”?mikeIt depends on…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 02 2011,08:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,12:38)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,19:06)Even though the Church in Biblical terms is a  She, to me it is not.Hi Irene,In the passage to which Kathi refers, the KJV calls the church “IT”, not “SHE” like some of the other translations.The Greek language, like many languages, has…[Read more]

Mike,The 'autos' is the 'He' in the passage…see that it is in the nominative case which means that it is the pronoun that is the subject and not the direct or indirect object of the sentence. The 'church' is in the accusative case which is another way of saying that the word is the direct object and receiving the action of the verb.Eph 5:27…[Read more]

Hi t8,you said:Quote And one of the precious promises is we will be like him. Our bodies will be transformed into a body like his. First is the carnal, then the spiritual. He calls us brothers. As sons, we are given the privileges that go with being sons.Being adopted doesn't mean that God doesn't love us any less, or that we end up somehow a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2011,19:33)Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,21:16)Gen 40:1Pharoah is called adown, not adonaysee here:http://classic.net.bible.org/verse.p….verse=1Then check it in Biblos.com, for NETBible doesn't specify the plurality or singularity of the word “adon” in any scripture…………from what I could tell when I put this…[Read more]

t8,When we see the word 'theos,' it can mean different things. The highest meaning, imo, would apply only to the person or persons who have always existed. I believe that two always existed, the Father and the Son. The Son existed within the Father and was begotten from the Father which would make the Father greater in position but not in…[Read more]

Happy belated birthday William!Love to you,Kathi

Irene,Don't bother looking for a post that isn't going to be there.Kathi

Irene,Quote Kathi believes that Jesus always existed in the mind of Hos Father.Where have I ever said that?  Please stop it Irene, you ought not to be making judgements and claims like you have been.Just in the last few days you said:The church is never called a 'she' but the church is.Quote Because nobody calls the Church a He or a She do they? fr…[Read more]

I agree Jack.