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Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years ago
Pierre,Who wrote that commentary, what is your source? I'll bet the writer believes in the unity of the Father and the Son and writes through that perspective. His point is that Jehovah is both God and Lord and there really aren't any other divine gods or lords that Jehovah rules over. All other gods or lords are not divine at all and were not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
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Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2011,09:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,20:36)Mike,Does Luke 4:8 speak about worshiping 'Jehovah your God' or the Lord (adonai) your God? What was written that is being referred to, Jehovah or adonai?There is only one Lord for us, is what Paul tells us.KathiWell, actually both Kathi.Jesus is recorded as saying…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,14:36)Here is a smoking gun to end the idea of Jesus being 'a god' and not 'a God.' I think we all agree that Jesus will exist for eternity, right? Well, if He were just 'a god' then He would not.Jer 10:1 Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel.2Thus says the LORD, “Do not learn t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Irene,Jehovah made all things alone. The Son was with God in the beginning and through the Son all things were made. That is two persons, Irene. One God and one Lord 1 Cor 8:6Two persons made all things…and they were alone before they made all things. They are Jehovah.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years ago
Pierre,You put the scripture in your post and do not even understand the significance.Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes. 1Give thanks to the LORD, for He is good, For His lovingkindness is everlasting.2Give thanks to the God of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years ago
Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 12 2011,16:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,05:31)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 12 2011,01:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,13:45)Irene,Quote But in the Old Testament it is LORD for Jehovah God.The Hebrew word for Jehovah is not being translated as Lord of lords or even LORD OF LORDS.Many times in the OT, Jehovah is translated as…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Deity of Jesus Christ-Scriptural Database in the forum Group Discussions 15 years ago
Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2011,19:33)Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2011,15:26)Here will be a place to post a scripture or passage or scriptural reasoning why you believe in the deity of Jesus Christ. Please only post here if you truly believe in the deity of Christ.Thanks ya'll!Bump for those who need to be reminded as to what is to be posted…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years ago
Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 12 2011,14:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,13:45)Irene,Quote But in the Old Testament it is LORD for Jehovah God.The Hebrew word for Jehovah is not being translated as Lord of lords or even LORD OF LORDS.Many times in the OT, Jehovah is translated as LORD, that is correct but it is not written as Lord or lord, it is always…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 12 2011,11:44)WJ said:Quote Jesus Christ, “WHO GAVE HIMSELF FOR US TO REDEEM US”!!!Is this terminology used of the Father anywhere in scriptures?Keith,Exactly bro! In Isaiah 44:6 YHWH said, “I am your Goel (kinsman-redeemer).” The Father cannot qualify because under the law a redeemer was required to be a blood rel…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years ago
Pierre,The great God that you write about is both God and Lord…Father and Son.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Irene,You want us all to believe that Jehovah is one person. However we know that all things came into being by Jesus. How does that fit with this verse?Isaiah 44:24Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, “I, the LORD, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself A…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Mike claims that Jesus did not create anything and that Jesus is just a 'god' and not a God.This is what Jehovah says to tell the gods that did not create heaven and earth:Jer 10:11 Thus you shall say to them, “The gods that did not make the heavens and the earth will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.”Mike, are you going to tel…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Here is a smoking gun to end the idea of Jesus being 'a god' and not 'a God.' I think we all agree that Jesus will exist for eternity, right? Well, if He were just 'a god' then He would not.Jer 10:1 Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel.2Thus says the LORD, “Do not learn the way of the nations, And do not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The new worlds translation on titus 2;13 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 12 2011,11:28)Hey JackThanks for bringing up this thread. I had been looking for this post of mine for some time. Tit 2:13, 14 is unambiguous and proof Jesus is God.So, let’s look at the closer context…while we wait for the blessed hope-the glorious *APPEARING* (epiphaneia) of our great “God and Savior”, Jesus C…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years ago
Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 12 2011,01:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,13:45)Irene,Quote But in the Old Testament it is LORD for Jehovah God.The Hebrew word for Jehovah is not being translated as Lord of lords or even LORD OF LORDS.Many times in the OT, Jehovah is translated as LORD, that is correct but it is not written as Lord or lord, it is always…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years ago
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,12:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,23:38)Pierre,Where is your scripture that says that His Father is 'LORD over him.'KathiKathiwhere is the scripture that says that God the father is not above his son ?and show scripture where Christ claim to be equal to his father?and also show scripture that shows that Christ…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 15 years ago
Pierre,Where is your scripture that says that His Father is 'LORD over him.'Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years ago
Pierre,Can you tell me why you believe a compound unity can't have one greater and one lessor within it? Can you tell me why you believe a compound unity can't have one that gives things to another?Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years ago
Pierre, The verse shows a unity. Not only is Peter asking for grace and peace to be multiplied to believers in the knowledge of God but ALSO of Jesus our Lord. Peter puts the two names together and each name has equal importance. That is prevalent throughout the NT.Kathi
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