Pierre,You never gave me the source of the commentary that you quoted. Do you not know where you got that from?Kathi

Pierre,In order to be given birth, one has to exist before birth…that is elementary. Birth is not the same as creation. Did you know that half of the 46 chromosomes that made you were in your mother from her birth, several years before you were even conceived?Kathi

Mike,If someone is said to be the 'son' of the creator, then the creator is a father in the sense of being their creator but not in the sense that they share in the same identical nature, like in the case of the only begotten Son who would not be one who was created but instead begotten.Kathi

Mike,you are confused if this is what you think that I believe.you said:Quote The conclusion is the same for both of you, for you both end up worshipping TWO completely different Gods – one of them named Jesus, the other Jehovah.The Father and the Son have many names applied to them.  The Father and Son both go by the name of their…[Read more]

Mike,Consider this principle from scriptures:Eccl 4:12A person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back-to-back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken. And, no God did not create Jesus in His own image…the Son did not become the image of God but IS the image of the invisible…[Read more]

Mike,Where is Manoah called 'god?' And, is 'god/God' the only translation of the word elohim?Kathi

Mike,I suspect they are the created angels because non-heavenly beings were not created till days after the foundation of the earth was founded. Scripture does not make that clear though. Also, scripture does not show evidence that the angels ever call Jehovah by the name 'Father.' They refer to Him as Jehovah mostly, as I understand it.Do you…[Read more]

Mike,He often says that 'like begets like.' I do think that it is linguistics of words like 'one being' and misunderstanding of what 'oneness' is that causes part of the problem here. Btw, thanks for capitalizing the 'G.' Kathi

Mike,Quote Kathi, what are your thoughts about the “sons of God” mentioned in Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7, and Gen 6:4? Do YOU think they are angels?Well, I believe they were heavenly created beings who do not call God their 'Father.' Kathi

Mike,You ought to read what you wrote in this quote:Quote And Kathi likes to ignore the fact that if there were more than one “God kind” of spirit being, then we would have more than one God.I don't think Keith is willing to be as brave as you, Kathi. You are okay with openly declaring your worship of TWO different Gods. In one sentence you say I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2011,11:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,09:36)No comments from the peanut gallery How about a cashew?“Tell them this: ‘These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.’”Jehovah is speaking of the wooden, brass, and golden idols of the other nat…[Read more]

Keith, Do you find that many here that tear down the compound unity of God write as if this compound unity is made up of only one person. It is like they can't hear 'three persons in one' or 'two persons' in one unity. Don't they see that one person is speaking either to the other person or about the whole unity, depending on context. Maybe…[Read more]

In other words Mike, the other gods are not gods who have been exalted by the true God but by themselves or others. The gods that have exalted themselves or been exalted as gods by others will perish…they did not make heaven or earth.Jer 10: 11Thus you shall say to them, “The gods that did not make the heavens and the earth will perish from t…[Read more]

Mike,Those that might be called gods are those who have wrongly exalted themselves to make themselves equal to God or those objects that people have wrongly exalted and made these objects into objects of worship, like carved wooden images, handmade molten images, entertainment, sports, family, other people, etc.; whatever one has placed in their…[Read more]

Pierre,The two are equal in deity nature and one is subject to the other…so? Compound unities often have one that the others are subject to. The family unity has the father that is the head of the family…they still are a compound unity. Jehovah God can be one compound unity and have more than one deity member where one member is the head of…[Read more]

Keith,Mike seems to like to ignore that there are different kinds of spirit beings…there is the God kind and there is the angelic kind. If we clarify the spirit beings as the God spirit being kind and the angelic spirit being kind then he would have a more difficult time pushing his ideas, imo.Kathi

Mike,Jack, Keith and I believe in the compound unity of more than one person, with each person being deity.Satan is not a God spirit being.  He is an angel spirit being that made himself a god, not by nature but by arrogance.  If anyone calls satan a god it would only be that he has wrongfully exalted himself making himself out to be like the m…[Read more]

Pierre,What was your source?Also, the Son was begotten, not created.Kathi

Irene,You have made an assumption that Jehovah is the name of our Heavenly Father alone. Jehovah as a compound unity would be everything that the Father and Son are. If the Father is the most High, then so is the unity for it includes the Father. If the Son is the Lord of lords, so is the compound unity for it includes the Son.Where does the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 13 2011,11:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2011,10:36)No comments from the peanut gallery Kathi Jer 10:11 is obvious proof their is “Only One True God” and all other so-called gods of men will be destroyed! But then Mike will say you are taking it to litteral! Also if Jesus is one of those gods that didn't make the…[Read more]