Mike,The word born is only a dead giveaway to Him being a Son and that He has a Father. That is as far as you can take that. You can't know how long He existed before He was born merely by the idea that He was born.Jesus is God, the Son because He is the Son of God, the Father. Since they are both deity beings, they are both most high in their…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2011,14:03)Bump for Kathi, invite for Paul:Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2011,08:18)Jehovah is both God and Lord, Irene.Psalm 110:1 Jehovah says to my Lord:   “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies   a footstool for your feet.”Kathi, if Jesus is a part of "Jehovah", then who is the "Lord" to whom JEHOVAH said, &#034…[Read more]

Mike,The root is the pre-existent Son, the 'sprout' is the human Son, together they are the incarnation of the begotten God and flesh man.Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritEach member of this unity is also called Jehovah, one as the Father and one as the Son.Context will help.John Gill is a good…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 06 2011,14:49)Kathi!  We are all Human Beings, but we are not all the same, just like Jesus is mot the same then His Father, that is what is important….. You want to make Jesus the same then His Father who by Jesus own words is greater then He is….. You will never convince me that Jesus is called Jehovah, that is the…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 07 2011,01:05)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,04:16)CharlesJn 18:37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate. Jesus answered, “You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”Jn 18:38 “What is truth?…[Read more]

If the eternal Light begets more Light, that begotten Light was always there, just not brought forth until the right time.Think about it.

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 05 2011,20:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 06 2011,10:36)Irene,All my children are equally human natured as their father is.Likewise, Jesus is equally deity natured as His father is.Are your children less human natured than Georg or are they equal in this regards?Kathi!  Our Children are not equal to us, neither is Jesus, by His…[Read more]

t8 has addressed two posts to me, above, why if I am not to post here, where do I answer him? t8 do you have that answer?

Matthew 15:8“‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;Again we see an example of a singular demomstrative pronoun, 'this.' with a compound unity designated as 'people.'

Jeremiah 16:5 For thus said Jehovah: Do not enter the house of a mourning-feast, Nor go to lament nor bemoan for them, For I have removed My peace from this people, An affirmation of Jehovah, The kindness and the mercies.Here is an example of a singular demonstrative pronoun, 'this,' with a compound unity designated as 'people.'

Mike,Stay away from the compound unity thread if you are going to post a lie on purpose and mislead. You purposely posted a lie, Mike. That is against God. You admitted to lying in your post just now, but of course not in so many words. first you said:Quote These scriptures show that the Kingdom not only belongs to the Father and the Son, but…[Read more]

Mike,Yes.

Irene,I did not put any false accusations. When I accuse you of anything, it is true and I can prove it. This is what I wrote:Quote For starters, you believe that 'firstborn' means 'first created' which it does not.Are you denying that you believe that firstborn means first created?You, yourself said this:Quote He created Jesus from nothing.You…[Read more]

Mike,If a firstborn is without a beginning, then the firstborn would be eternal. Right? You think that it is impossible for the firstborn of an eternal being to not have been eternally within the eternal being before being begotten, but you have no proof of that.If there is only one eternal person who became begotten and hence firstborn, then you…[Read more]

In response to what Mike just posted go here, second post down:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y308965

Mike said in another thread:Quote Daniel 7:18But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever.’Daniel 7:22until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.Daniel 7:27Then the sovereignty, pow…[Read more]

Mike,I should know if I am afraid or not.  Right?  I know that is not why I am not discussing this topic. Along with what I have told you from the beginning, it is because, imo you exalt satan when we discuss him.  You make him bigger than he is and I do not want to participate in you doing that.So, I know you do not have discernment and do not…[Read more]

Irene,While you are at it, prove that I invented the compound unity doctrine, or stop spouting off about that too. Google 'compound unity of God' and see if I am the writer of every article or if every writer uses me as their source. You are being ridiculous with saying that and showing how uninformed you are!You are lying about this:Here I…[Read more]

Irene,I think that it is pretty funny that you ran away from our one on one discussion and then you said what you just did. Prove that I didn't discuss this topic because I do not want to discuss scriptures with him. Prove it Irene, or be stop spouting off!

Irene,All my children are equally human natured as their father is.Likewise, Jesus is equally deity natured as His father is.Are your children less human natured than Georg or are they equal in this regards?