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Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2011,22:35)Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AMActually, he claimed to be the SON OF “I AM”.Ok Mike,Show us what verse tells you this, ya know, where He said that He was the Son of I AM.Do you doubt that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:53)Irene,You missed the point. In the OT, Jehovah says that no one was with Him when He created, and then in the NT it clearly says that the Word WAS WITH GOD and that all was created through that Word that was WITH God. So, how can Jehovah be alone without anyone with H…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,18:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,23:45)Mike,The 'I AM' could not have been 'I have existed' because it is written in the present tense, not the past tense.Just like in 14:9 Kathi? Where virtually EVERY translator renders it as “I have been” so it actually makes sense in English?Mike,You need to distinguish…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Happyman,Who are you referring to as saying that Jesus is a person who goes around talking to himself and using his voice to come down from heaven. That is not the trinity that teaches that.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 16 2011,11:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,19:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:37)Joshua of Jericho had the Hebrew version of 'Jesus' but he was a type of the Jesus who actually was the Messiah.AND…………..?!?!?Kathi, find another way to prove Jesus is God, okay? “Jesus” was a VERY COMMON name in the time of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2011,22:35)Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AMActually, he claimed to be the SON OF “I AM”.Ok Mike,Show us what verse tells you this, ya know, where He said that He was the Son of I AM.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 19 2011,19:53)Kathi! Just reading back what you said to me, to look atIsa 44:24 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I the LORD that maketh all ; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; And John 1:1 well it was God Himself that created all, j…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,20:24)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 19 2011,01:42)I agree with you, many times Yeshua applied the “I AM” title to Himself and the significance was not lost on his listeners (e.g. John 8:59).John 8:24 NIVI told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2011,14:00)So barley,I was wondering…could you say this:”Before my grandfather was born, I AM?”didn't think so.
I don't think any of us existed before our grandfathers, Kathi. So we couldn't imply that before them, we had existed.Jesus DID exist before Abraham, so could t…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike,This should help:Imperfect TenseThe imperfect tense shows continuous or linear type of action just like the present tense. It always indicates an action continually or repeatedly happening in past time. It portrays the action as going on for some extended period of time in the past.The idea of continual action in the past does not apply when…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Shimmer,I follow the words on the overhead.
God knows the heart…they have shown us many different names that apply to them.Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
barley,Let me know when you want to have a respectful conversation, until then I am going to choose to pass…sorry. I have no time for this type of behavior.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (barley @ Sep. 19 2011,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 13 2011,10:59)And what does the name 'Jesus' mean…Jehovah our Righteousness.And God would not name his only begotten son by his own name?Did you give your children a different last name than your own?May be you gave them the last name “lizard”?or the name of your first boyfriend? To…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Clearly barley,You have no grasp on the active voice of the Greek words. Learn about it and then learn how you actually have to be existing before you can say 'I am' in the active voice.Also, Abraham lives…Let scripture speak:26“But regarding the fact that the dead rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 19 2011,02:42)You're doing a great job in this thread Kathi. I agree with you, many times Yeshua applied the “I AM” title to Himself and the significance was not lost on his listeners (e.g. John 8:59). The important point, which seems to escape t8 every time, is when He applies “ego eimi” to Himself it is unpredicated. So…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
So barley,I was wondering…could you say this:”Before my grandfather was born, I AM?”didn't think so.
Lightenup replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter singular, not sword which is accusative feminine singular.It does not throw off my understanding of the verse because I was not even aware I was stating…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
So Jesus told them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do nothing on my own authority. Instead, I speak only what the Father has taught me.Summing Himself up as I AM is brilliant. It is such a simple, yet profound statement. It is such an undefined and non-limiting name that Jesus is relating…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote Who did Jesus claim to be?I AM
Lightenup replied to the topic John 8:25 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 8 months ago
Actually, if you feel the need to substitute I AM for the Hebrew word, you would use 'eh yeh. His name is 'eh yeh according to Exodus 3:14.That would look like this:John 8:28 So Jesus told them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that 'eh yeh, and that I do nothing on my own authority. Instead, I speak only what the…[Read more]
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