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t8,Quote “Ye are theos, ye are all sons of the Most High God.”The Psalmist said it, Jesus endorsed it, now it is up to you to accept that it is true, and then figure out what it means.Tell me why you think that those that were told 'ye are theos' back in Psalms were told that and Paul and Barnabas were not told that they were theos.

Mike,you said:Quote At least the Trinitarians realized how wrong this would be and try to confusingly make their three Gods into only One, in keeping with scripture.The Trinitarians make their three Gods into only One…what? In your opinion…one what? One Godhead or one person?Doesn't it bother you that you believe in One Supreme God, the…[Read more]

t8,Why the 'B' in 'Compound Unity Being (CUB)?'I am not saying that the Father and the Son make one being. Maybe your confusion here has led to your unwarranted judgements.I wish you the best also and hope for unity in truth.

So t8, What is different about the theos you think you will be and the theos that Jesus is?Show me scriptures to back up your claims, thx.

Well t8, I don't think I have seen anyone say they were equal to Jesus but that is what you seem to be claiming.you  said:Quote Whatever you believe about me LU, you have to believe about Jesus too. I am merely acknowledging the truth that Jesus said, “ye are theos” and was quoting, “ye are elohim, you are all sons of the Most High God”.Why do…[Read more]

t8 says:Quote One who is the God/Theos. (The Father), andmany who are described as theos. It seems that t8 believes that there is a supreme God and many gods, one of the gods being Jesus. We know that Jesus said to believe in Him as well as the Father. Since t8 doesn't believe in God as a compound unity, that would make him out to be a…[Read more]

Mike,About 'kings' in the plural…it seems that more men besides than the head king are called kings.  Read Isaiah 10:8 and the commentary below it:American Standard VersionFor he saith, Are not my princes all of them kings?Bible in Basic EnglishFor he says, Are not all my captains kings?Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary8-11. Vauntings of…[Read more]

Mike,Here is something about Egypt having more than one king:For example, the main classical account of early Egyptian history (before the time of Alexander the Great) is that of an Egyptian priest called Manetho — who lived in the 3rd century B.C.E. He said there had been thirty-one separate dynasties of kings from the earliest times to that of A…[Read more]

t8,It seems like you have a religion that you can add to the list…one God and one god for instance. Or just how many gods do you have t8 that we should believe in to go along with that one God?  One, two, three…?Can you show me where Jesus calls Himself a god?I'm not joking, btw.

t8,I posted one at the top of the page that implies a compound unity of two persons who each have what the other has.Also, this one:Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,21:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:28)Cain and Abel were not created, they were begotten from those that were created.ALL human beings are the creations of God, Kathi.  The fact that God created Cain THROUGH Adam and Eve doesn't negate the fact that he was one of God's creations, as we all are.Mike,Can you…[Read more]

Quote (thehappyman @ Sep. 21 2011,08:55)Hi all ,         first of all ; I pray that i have not offended anyone.                   And may our Lord help me not to start offending.          Good morning all :                  8:27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.sometimes we are confounded and the ” Holy Spirit has not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,21:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:36)Mike and Happyman,Mike said:Quote They understand it until they are completely and systematically brainwashed by the leaders of their churches that teach the totally nonsensical notion that the Son OF God can BE the God he is the Son OF.The children are taught that the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,21:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,19:23)Mike,You need to distinguish ego eimi in the sentences with a direct object and those sentences where ego eimi does not have a direct object.Please note, the same translators that you brag on in John 14:9 translated ego eimi as I AM.  Remember that you don't know the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2011,21:39)I tell you what, Kathi.  Let's drop the John 8:58 “I AM” thing for a while so you can focus on showing me the OTHER places in John where Jesus claimed to be God or equal to him.Remember, only the direct quotes of Jesus are allowed, for we are trying to find out what HE taught about himself.I have listed 23…[Read more]

Mike,It was easy with Neb and Arti, I looked them up and 'king' was written in the singular. As far as Gen 39:2, I have gotten distracted from it (you know why) and also, I don't feel qualified to make a judgement. One source says that Moses knew nothing of the majestic plural, also, adonai is not the plural of adown, and adonai and adown are…[Read more]

Charles and Mike,I hope you don't mind some input here.Charles you said:Quote Not only that, but all humans will acquire His glorious body, and become sons and daughters of God, therefore Gods.John 10: 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,04:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,06:50)Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular  relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter singular, not sword which is accusative feminine singular.It does not throw off…[Read more]

Mike and Happyman,Mike said:Quote They understand it until they are completely and systematically brainwashed by the leaders of their churches that teach the totally nonsensical notion that the Son OF God can BE the God he is the Son OF.The children are taught that the Son of God has the same nature as the God He is the Son of. They are never…[Read more]