Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2011,23:12)Paladin,Is the use of Aion in Hebrews 1:2 singular or plural in Hebrews 1:2.Mike believes it is singular.I would like to know how to tell the difference and what source on the internet my aid me in learning.Thank you.Hi Kerwin,I can help you with this. The word is plural in that instance.Go…[Read more]

Mike,First, I just want you to realize that the OT Jews were familiar with the name “the Word of God” because of how they used it in the targums. Do you know this?Go here for a good article on that: http://www.bibleword.org/memra.shtmlHere is an excerpt:And from the Catholic Encyclopedia: “In Palestinian Rabbinism the Word (memra) is very…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2011,22:26)Irene,Ex 19:9The LORD said to Moses, “I am going to come to you in a dense cloud, so that the people will hear me speaking with you and will always put their trust in you.” 20:18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. The…[Read more]

The OT Jews replaced the word “God” with the “Word of God” and that “Word of God” did things as if the “Word of God” were a person who was the spokesperson part of God. This does go along with what I have been saying about the two acting interdependently with each other as one unity. The Father's word was delivered by the “Word of God” as it…[Read more]

Mike,What I was pointing out is that the name 'The Word of God' was a name that the Jews were very familiar with in the OT and associated with God as somehow the part of Him that could be heard and seen without Him actually being heard or seen. I read that the word “God” was at times replaced with “the Word of God.”About no man hearing God the…[Read more]

Mike,Quote I don't see “the Word of YHWH” actually BEING YHWH anywhere in this information.Compare these two renditions of Gen 1:27And the Word of YHWH created man in his likeness,in the likeness of YHWH, YHWH created,male and female created He them.(Targ. Jonathan Gen. 1:27)God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him;…[Read more]

Ok, I dug some up here:This “Word of YHWH” was, according to Targum Jonathan, the Creator:And the Word of YHWH created man in his likeness,in the likeness of YHWH, YHWH created,male and female created He them.(Targ. Jonathan Gen. 1:27)This idea is also put forward in the Jerusalem Targum:And the Word of YHWH said to Moses:”I am He who said unto…[Read more]

I think that ya'll should study how the Jews spoke about 'the Word of God' in their paraphrase of the scriptures. I believe it is called the Talmud or the Targums but if you want to know more, I can dig it up for you.From what I remember, the Jews would replace 'Jehovah' with 'the Word of God' when Jehovah was seen or heard since they knew that…[Read more]

Paladin?Quote Paul tells us reema I S the Spirit. Eph 6:10Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of his might. 11Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 30 2011,09:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2011,04:26)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 21 2011,04:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2011,06:50)Paladin,Quote You are correct, in that spirit is genitive. I've got to stop posting when I get tired.The nominative neuter singular  relative pronoun “o” replaces spirit which is genitive neuter…[Read more]

Paladin,Thank you for your lengthy and in depth response. I will have to look at it more closely when I am in the mood for all that technical grammar info. I'm sorry that you have cancer and have to endure all the radiation. May God give you strength and walk with you through your battles.Kathi

Mike,I can talk to both of them and they both hear me…you need me to talk to both of them!What you have clearly demonstrated in this thread is that if Jesus said exactly what you asked for, you would change it to mean that He was saying that He was our master and ruler. You will never be satisfied till you get to drill Jesus with your…[Read more]

Could you say what Thomas said to Jesus, Irene?John 20:2828Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”Kathi

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 25 2011,16:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,14:11)Thanks guys but I did know that theos doesn't always mean God.  Of course all other 'theos' were not begotten that way…as theos, just the only Begotten God, and all others mentioned as 'theos/elohim' didn't have divine nature like HE was born with aside from His Father.  And a…[Read more]

Heb 1:8But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.9“YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS.”10And, “YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNI…[Read more]

You are welcome, happyman!Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2011,18:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,11:49)Mike,Quote And “begotten” means “brought into existence by a father”, Kathi.  So while I agree that Jesus is the highest of the “many gods and many lords” in existence (NEXT TO the Father, of course), “begotten” is a BIG distinction BETWEEN him and our only UNBEGOTTEN…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,12:53)Mike,Quote Kathi, is your last “Theos” meant to be plural?  Because you are saying that “both the Father and the Son are 'MY' GODS, right?It is correct either way…either to express two separate persons who are each a God or two separate persons who are interdependently relating as one God.Bump for…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2011,18:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 25 2011,11:53)Mike,Quote Kathi, is your last “Theos” meant to be plural?  Because you are saying that “both the Father and the Son are 'MY' GODS, right?It is correct either way……So for YOU, “it is correct” to say “both the Father and the Son are 'MY' GODS”?Mike,That was deceitful…[Read more]

Maybe you all would have had a laugh at Thomas in the upper room and would have told him that He has a problem with scripture itself.John 20:2828Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.” Both Lord and God have a…[Read more]