When asked for scriptures that said wisdom was created besides the questionable one of Prov. 8:22, I was given this one but I fail to see where it speaks of wisdom being 'created' in any translation. Here are many translations and not one of them use 'created' or a form of the word. Job 28:27New International Version (©1984)then he looked at…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Jesus did allow Himself to be worshipped. There is a reason for that. There is also a reason why the adopted brothers did not allow themselves to be worshiped but worshiped both the Father and the Son.Do take care,Kathi

Mike,Ok Mike, take care. I may stay and address some of your arguments but you do not need to feel like you have to respond. Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2012,16:30)Kathi,When someone turns 50, do they say they've lived for 50 years and 9 months?And do people, AS A GENERAL RULE, have funerals for their stillborn babies and speak of the great EXISTENCE that child enjoyed?In your zeal to make the scripture teach your unscriptural doctrine, you have started claiming crazy…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 05 2012,18:15)Hi Kathi, We should worship the same God that Jesus did.Hi Nick,Nice to see you. You are right and we give the same honor to the Son because of it.Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 02 2012,19:17)Your scenario doesn't apply.  Mine does.  How do I know?  Because of the SEVEN different scriptures I've showed you where Jesus is listed as someone OTHER THAN the ONE who created all things.And because of ALL the MANY scriptures that speak of our Creator, while NO SCRIPTURE ever speaks of our Cr…[Read more]

Mike,you asked:Quote Who really installed the cover, Kathi? ABC Pool Coverings? My workers? It doesn't really matter, because the point is that it was installed THROUGH Mike Boll, yet Mike Boll didn't personally lay one finger on that cover.The workers installed the pool cover. Kathi

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 02 2012,19:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 02 2012,20:57)Pierre,The one Lord has more than one name and title, do you believe this?Do you believe that He is called the begotten theos in scriptures, specifically John 1:18?Do you believe that He is the Word that was God in John 1:1Then it shouldn't be too hard to see that He is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 02 2012,18:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,18:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2012,18:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,15:19)Mike,You answered correctly…there are two theos spoken about.  1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 02 2012,15:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2012,21:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2012,18:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,17:40)Can you admit that your son was alive the day before he was born?Sure.Can YOU admit that there was a time when your sons and daughters DIDN'T exist?Mike,There is where you lied. You said 'sure'…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 02 2012,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 02 2012,00:33)You are unusually angry tonight.Would you be happy if I called you a liar?  (The nonsensical, harassing posts from that other fellow didn't help my happy outlook on life last night either.)Sorry for blowing up, but I didn't lie.Hi Mike,No problem…it's cool. If you say…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,18:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2012,18:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,15:19)Mike,You answered correctly…there are two theos spoken about.  1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things came into being through Him, and apart…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Kathi, I no longer want to discuss this with you because you just make crap up as you go along. You WANT Jesus to have existed from forever “inside of God” , but you have no proof that this happened.I believe that God didn't become Father at one point but that He always was. I also believe that the Son is a vital part of who God is and…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Don't ever call me a liar again.Then don't say something that you don't mean just to move the conversation along.You are unusually angry tonight. Take a break Mike. Everyone needs a break now and then.Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2012,18:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 29 2012,17:40)Can you admit that your son was alive the day before he was born?Sure.Can YOU admit that there was a time when your sons and daughters DIDN'T exist?Mike,There is where you lied. You said 'sure' and later said that you really don't agree with my question but just said…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 01 2012,18:17)Kathi,  Scripture says we have a CREATOR.  You say we have CREATORS.I will go with the scriptures, thanks.Like t8 said regarding ABC Pool Cover Company and the employee…both installed the pool cover. A person can say that the ABC Pool Cover Company installed the pool cover but that would NOT mean that the e…[Read more]

Pierre,The one Lord has more than one name and title, do you believe this?Do you believe that He is called the begotten theos in scriptures, specifically John 1:18?Do you believe that He is the Word that was God in John 1:1Then it shouldn't be too hard to see that He is called Lord in some places and God in other places. Why don't you show me when…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2012,00:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2012,18:05)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 30 2012,22:24)However, you seem to think that should apply to God's Son also…………..First of all, I said “sure” to move this discussion along.  A child can be aborted at any time before he is born – would YOU say that aborted child had once…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 01 2012,01:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2012,22:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 28 2012,16:28)Pierre,Why would you say that…protestants don't look to the pope or kiss his feet?What part of my belief is not in scriptures?  Back up your words Pierre. I say the Jesus is the Son of God for real. Do you not find that in…[Read more]

So Pierre,Would you admit that the Son was begotten before the ages which began with day 1?Kathi