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Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 18 2012,16:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 18 2012,12:13)Mike,There you go, adding words that are not there.Oh, I think the “my” is implied from verse 12, where Jesus called Jehovah “my God” four times.Mike,You need to read according to the context. This letter of 3:14 is a completely new letter written to a completely…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Ahhh Nick,He was annointed to be the Messiah before He even came in the flesh. Who did the angels say was born in the City of David?Luke 2:11For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.There is no future tense in 'which IS Christ the Lord.'If we no longer speak of Jesus according to the flesh, how do we…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 18 2012,13:06)Hi georg, We do not give credence to the beliefs or traditions of men.There is one church-the Body of ChristHi Nick,Do you realize that many churches make up that one church that you speak of?
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Hi Georg,Give these two sites a look for more information on the inner man/ inner person.http://bibletruthsonline.com/training%20the%20inner%20man.htmhttp://www.biblestudymanuals.net/inner_man.htmKathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Hi Marty,Thanks for your answer.If Jesus is just our Lord and not our God then why did Jesus not correct Thomas?Also please tell me who is the husband to the church.Thanks again,Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Mike,There you go, adding words that are not there.
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,Do you have a particular passage spoken by Jesus that you can ask me about?Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Georg,you said:Quote Yes, a dead body does look empty, empty of life, but he/she is not with the Lord; not consciously that is.I give you some scriptures you need to look at.Ps. 104:29 “Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled, thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.”Eccl. 3:19 “For that which befalleth the sons…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Georg,you said:Quote The heart has nothing to do with anything, except to pump blood. It may pump faster at times when we are exited, and slower when we're scared; but our decisions are made with our mind/spirit depending what information is in our brain.Do a search on 'heart' and see that the word 'heart' does not usually mean the organ that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Hi Georg,Doesn't this verse discount your theory that mind = spirit?1 Cor 14:14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Mike,I think that 'beginning' is a good choice as a translation since it is likely the choice elsewhere in Revelations. In Revelations Jesus is the 'Beginning and the End' and so I do think that what that means is related to Rev 3:14. That would rule out Jesus as a first 'created' creature but so does the rest of the Bible, imo. He would certainly…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 17 2012,12:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 22 2011,16:32)Devolution,You have demonstrated that the Holy Spirit is probably not a 3rd person but you have not demonstrated that He is not the 'inner person' of the Father and Son united which is what I believe. I don't believe that the Holy Spirit is merely the spirit of truth…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,Back to the topic. We can discuss this elsewhere.
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,16:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 17 2012,14:50)Nick,The begotten God became flesh so certainly the begotten God was in the flesh of Jesus and spoke to man as a man that was also the begotten God. The begotten God and His Father are IN each other and are inseparable no doubt. They interdependently are God to us through…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Mike,Quote Why would we only consider one Book in the Bible? Weren't other Books also written in the Hebrew language? So why would you limit our search to only Proverbs?The book of Proverbs had the verse in question. It makes perfect sense to see how the same author uses the word as it relates to wisdom through the rest of the book and there are…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2012,15:56)Hi LU, So you think it was all his WORD. God never spoke through him??Nick,Jesus spoke both for His Father as well as for Himself. All of His words reflect truth. There is no variance in their light. They both have the wisdom of God. Now the Holy Spirit brings their words to life to those with ears to hear…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Nick,The begotten God became flesh so certainly the begotten God was in the flesh of Jesus and spoke to man as a man that was also the begotten God. The begotten God and His Father are IN each other and are inseparable no doubt. They interdependently are God to us through their Spirit. The Father is Almighty through His Son and Spirit. When you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (cavedave @ Feb. 16 2012,08:16)I will also add that I was asked to leave the web site where these videos came from because I would not give in to the idea that Jesus was God. I simply believe Jesus is the Son of God the word of God and our saivor. No more no less pretty simple stuff. No where in scripture does it ever say God the Son and was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2012,19:26)Oh, that's right. I forgot that “majority” means “truth of the matter”.Kathi, I'm bored with this. We've gone as far as we can.Later sister,mikeMike,You like to aim below the belt. Maybe you forget all the scriptures that I put up in Proverbs, each in several translations, comparing how the words in q…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Who is the creator of all things? in the forum View Points 14 years, 3 months ago
Pierre,If it were my own imagination why do so many believe this and have so for centuries? How is it that I create my own scriptures when all scriptures that I quote are quotes of known translations?Sorry, you were wrong after all.What does the Bible translation say that you like regarding Prov. 8:22-24.Kathi
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