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Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Man partakes in deity nature because grace has been bestowed on him by God.The Son partakes in deity nature because He always was, is and will be deity.Big difference.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Kerwin,you said:Quote It is my understanding Jammin is a Trinitarian which is one who’s Christology is three persons in one God. That infers that the one God has multi-personality disorder.What you think is trinitarianism is not trinitarianism. The three persons are one in DEITY NATURE and have been and always will be eternally inseparable in t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Kerwin,Polytheism is a belief in several gods with different natures and different purposes. Like those who would worship the sun god as well as worship the moon god…two different natures and purposes.What I understand is two persons together with their Holy Spirit that have a common nature (true deity nature) and act as one…interdependently…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Kerwin,Wikipedia did not say how old it was but that it became the standard by the 5th century. See here:The Peshitta (Syriac: ܦܫܝܛܬܐ for “simple, common, straight, vulgate”, Arabic:”بسيطة”, sometimes called the Syriac Vulgate) is the standard version of the Bible for churches in the Syriac tradition.The Old Testament of the Peshitta was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Mar. 03 2012,17:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2012,13:24)Nick and Marty and Mike, In regards to the church, who is the head?Certainly a husband is not a god just because he is a head over a wife. So what would make someone that claimed to be the head of a group a deity as opposed to a normal man? Like I have said recently…If He…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,10:50)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,09:28)Christ has the form of GOD according to phil 2.6. therefore, he is GOD!Go back to third grade, jammin. If Christ (which in itself refers to someone God anointed, and not God Himself) has the form OF God, then he is not the God he has the form OF, but instead, somebody…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Abe,The Son who was in the form of God, while being in the form of God, was not a man and that is WHY He had to become a son of man. After He became a son of man, well, then He became able to be tempted, i.e. to be hungry, physically tired, etc. And then He was also able to die…He in regards to the flesh form, was able to shed blood and die. He…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,08:25)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,21:18)they have the same nature.And some of us will have the same nature as God someday. Will those of us who receive this honor also BE God Himself?Does having the nature of the Omniscient Creator of all things make you the Omniscient Creator of all things?
Only in Bizarro W…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,Jesus is eternal and has the name Jehovah which confirms this. I'm not going to argue this with you because I have already shown you. I just can't let you get away with trying to teach this.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2012,23:44)Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,09:18)the father did not became flesh mike. that's right. but the son did.no man has the form of GOD. christ has the form of GOD! they have the same nature.the father and son, GOD!as i have said, you and adam have the same form, man. but you are not adam. adam is a true man! how about…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Hi jammin,I do believe that the fullness of the true God that offers eternal life does not exist apart from the Son. The true God that offers eternal life is not separate from the Son but the Son is very much a part of this true God.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 14 years, 2 months ago
Both the Lamsa translation and the RSV teach the deity of Christ. In all the passages that refer to Him as God, the G is capitalized.
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Hi Kerwin,I have been reading a free online book about that recently. It gives strong evidence that the Aramaic NT was before the Greek. Here is an excerpt and a link if you are interested:This book will show you many errors and contradictions in the Greek text, which are solved by theAramaic. It will show you variants in the many Greek…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 14 years, 2 months ago
About Lamsa's translation:”Lamsa's Translation:Lamsa's translation of the entire Peshitta (OT and NT) in English is the only suchtranslation to date. Lamsa's work is not carefully done and contains far too manyaccommodations to the King James Version and to the Massoretic Hebrew OldTestament text to be accepted as an accurate representation of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Deity of Jesus Christ/extra-Biblical quotes in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 2 months ago
Tertullian's view:We have already asserted that God made the world, and all which it contains, by His Word, and Reason, and Power. It is abundantly plain that your philosophers, too, regard the Logos—that is, the Word and Reason—as the Creator of the universe. For Zeno lays it down that he is the creator, having made all things according to a det…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
You are welcome jammin!Yep, God was manifest in the flesh
Here are some more obvious verses making it clear that Jesus is deity:How about some passages that clearly tell us that Jesus the Messiah is the LORD JEHOVAH. Philippians 2:6-11 Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)6He who, while he was in the form of God, did not esteem this as a prize,…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 2 months ago
Hey jammin,Check out this translation of John 1:1. Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)In the origin The Word had been existing and That Word had been existing with God and That Word was himself God.This translation has recently been made available online. See it here:http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/john/1.htmIt helps clear up…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Nick,Are you not 'in' the Father?
Lightenup replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike,Quote Jesus was most definitely the Son of God in a way that no one else ever was, or ever will be.That we agree on. He is Lord Jehovah the Messiah and the Living God if you really want to know. The Aramaic Bible makes that crystal clear in the language of the original NT…not Greek but Aramaic.Luke 2:11Aramaic Bible in Plain English…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Did God die on the cross in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Gene and Nick,This Bible translation of the Aramaic NT that is said to be the original NT would so help you I think. Here is a few posts I made about it in the '200%' thread:Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 02 2012,14:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 02 2012,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2012,22:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2012,16:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @…[Read more]
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