Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2012,19:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2012,18:02)If Acts 4 is not a teaching on creation……………Kathi,If a scripture mentions the words, “God created”, even in passing, then it is a teaching on who created.In the case of Acts 4 (and Acts 17), Jesus is listed as someone other than the One who created EVERYTHING.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2012,19:20)Kathi,How about we only cap the “G” on any God who doesn't have a God of his own, okay?  Mike,How about we capitalize the G for the God who is our Lord and Savior, Mike. Then we would be consistent with every Bible translation aside from the NWT.

Mike,you said:Quote I believe what the scriptures teach, jammin. Angels are also called gods in the scriptures, and we know they are created, right?Jesus is a god (mighty one) who is a lesser god than his own Creator (God Most High/God of gods).The scriptures teach that Jesus is God, not god. The G is always capitalized in reference to Jesus as…[Read more]

Mikeyou said:Quote Kathi, according to the prayer in Acts 4, there is the God they prayed to, who created EVERYTHING in the heavens.  Jesus is a thing in the heavens who is NOT the God they prayed to.  Logically then, he would have no choice but to be one of those things in the heavens created by the God who created EVERYTHING in the heavens.Is A…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2012,02:39)Lu, there are many reasons why it cants be dec 25.  But that is not what this thread is about.  I would really like for you to go over the facts as simply as you can concerning this thread.David,This thread is about the claims regarding the origin of Christmas as to whether it has pagan origins or not. The date o…[Read more]

Interesting to think about in reverse…someone who lived in the greatest dimension yet humbled himself to dwell in the least dimension. He did this so he could relate to and understand those who only knew that least dimension. Then he goes back to the greatest dimension and promised the ones left behind that when he was back in that greatest…[Read more]

Truth is never malice, Shimmer. We are to embrace the truth. Truth sets us free! Disobedience to God will not.James 1:22But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. 23For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; 24for once he has looked at…[Read more]

Gene,You didn't read what I linked for you. Go read it. Here it is again:http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Christmas/christmas.html

Thanks William,I do not know where you can find in the Bible about the foundation being abstract laws. I always thought that foundations were physical as something that can be seen and felt. Prov 8 speaks of measuring out the foundation after there were seas and mountains and hills. So, could you please show me your scriptures that tell us or…[Read more]

Mike,You see nothing wrong with calling Adam the '”firstborn of the human race.” This is just another example of how you add words where there are no such words. You exchange 'of' with 'by' in Rev. 3:14 where you also insist that the beginning is the created beginning; you say firstborn but mean first created in Col 1:15, and now you claim that…[Read more]

David,Now that I see that Zacharias had temple service two times a year, once in March/April and once in Sept./Oct. I can certainly get behind a Dec. 25th birth date. Did you know about the second time of the year that Zacharias served in the temple?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 27 2012,05:23)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2012,12:03)Hi William,You are very welcome. It is my pleasure to be considered your true friend and sister in the Lord Quote Yes I believe that when the Father spoke the foundations into place which bought about this manifestation, that it bought about the literal Word of God.Here…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2012,14:50)This post was made by Kangaroo Jack from here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y340987Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 03 2012,14:11)Tertullian's view:We have already asserted that God made the world, and all which it contains, by His Word, and Reason, and Power. It is abundantly plain that your philosophers, too,…[Read more]

This post was made by t8 to LU from here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….6;st=10Quote Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 03 2012,17:11)Tertullian's view:We have already asserted that God made the world, and all which it contains, by His Word, and Reason, and Power. It is abundantly plain that your philosophers, too, regard the Logos—that is, the Word a…[Read more]

This post was made by t8 to KJ from here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….6;st=10Quote KJ, have you changed your view again?Not a necessarily a bad thing of course.You use to teach that Jesus was and is God, but now you say he is the Word.This is a change in view is it not?

This post was made by Kangaroo Jack from here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y340987Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 03 2012,14:11)Tertullian's view:We have already asserted that God made the world, and all which it contains, by His Word, and Reason, and Power. It is abundantly plain that your philosophers, too, regard the Logos—that is, the Word a…[Read more]

I will paste some posts from the database thread to start discussion if interested.

Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2011,15:36)Here is where we can compile significant quotes of writers or speakers from places other than scripture that speak of the deity of Christ.  Remember to list your source.  Please only post here if you truly believe in the deity of Christ.Thank you!Hi guys,I bumped the OP to remind everyone that this is not a d…[Read more]

David, interesting link.Gene, what I have learned just this Sunday, March 25th, coincidentally, was that Zacharias performed temple service twice a year and one time would have placed Jesus' conception near the end of December and the other time would have placed Jesus' birth at the end of Dec. or beginning of Jan. If He was born during the feast…[Read more]

Hi dew,Good question. Obviously if you sense the Lord is leading you to do something or to stop doing something and you don't follow that leading, then you are walking in the flesh and not in the spirit. For real life examples…if you are mean to someone and God prompts you to ask for forgiveness with a sincere heart but you don't, then you are…[Read more]